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  • jasminehoop
    jasminehoop Online Community Member Posts: 23 Contributor

    I'm sorry I haven't replied before now, I've got some sort of virus and feeling really grotty.

    I read your reply and I don't just feel compassion for you and what you went through, I can also really identify. I was bullied by other children. Not only that but I was brutalised by certain teachers and it ruined my life chances, so I certainly understand something of your experiences and I'm sorry you suffered throughout your school years.

    On the other hand, as an adult I've worked in education/schools, and my best friend is a time-served primary school teacher. I've met many in the profession who set themselves far higher standards than many of the so-called teachers of my childhood days, and yet their efforts are so often derailed by the politics and economics that blight the profession. And don't get me started on how that impacts on so many of the children!

    I'm afraid seeing sweeping criticisms of the teaching profession sets me off, and that's how your comment came across to me. Now I realise where you were coming from and I hope you won't feel upset about our clash today! We're so up against it at the moment, and we're better together ✌️ I enjoy many of your posts, but I saw red earlier and as you had posted your view I could only conclude that you meant it. If I'm honest though, I sometimes say things I regret on forums and I know context means a lot. Thanks for explaining your position.

  • onlymeagain
    onlymeagain Online Community Member Posts: 163 Empowering

    As part of the Children's Wellbeing Bill, they want to stop parents from being able to remove their children from school if they have any SEN. So if a child is not coping, has MH issues caused by school or anything else, they will be forced to go to school everyday.
    The introduction of VAT on Private schools has already meant many parents who sent their children with SEN to those schools can no longer afford it and have had to put their children in mainstream.
    But most people are backing this bill with no idea what they are saying yes to. There are many people trying to fight this bill too.

  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Online Community Member Posts: 1,370 Championing

    Everything they do seems cruel . They really have no idea and are just ruining everything they touch

  • Ranald
    Ranald Online Community Member Posts: 1,106 Championing
    edited May 27
  • Passerby
    Passerby Posts: 438 Trailblazing

    We need to write also to Nigel Farage. If he expresses a slight disagreement with the proposals, Starmer will make a U-turn in no time. We've nothing to lose writing to him, and I'm sure he'll like it.

  • bton1968
    bton1968 Online Community Member Posts: 112 Empowering
  • Ranald
    Ranald Online Community Member Posts: 1,106 Championing

    What do you mean by " use our navy"? You are lashing out at the most vulnerable of people.

  • apples
    apples Online Community Member Posts: 510 Empowering

    imo I don’t think Nigel will help, Nigel is talking about the working people setting their alarm to go off to work while their neighbour stays at home and has more money, and saying hence amount of unemployed

  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Online Community Member Posts: 1,370 Championing

    I already emailed him , haven’t heard back but they’ll still be aware of my email

  • jul1aorways
    jul1aorways Online Community Member Posts: 397 Pioneering
    edited May 27

    That's OK, I understand that. I hope that you will feel better soon. 😊

    I am really pleased to see that you understood where I was coming from and I am sorry to hear that you have had to endure abuse by some teachers, when you were a child and you were bullied by other children yourself.

    Its so sad that you understand my situation so well because of the terrible situations you found yourself in. 😞

    I really can't blame you for seeing my post from the viewpoint you did. I know that I was sub consciously revisiting my own abuse and bullying and that it's not my fault but I still feel pretty rotten about writing it.

    I fully intend to be much more aware of what I'm writing in the future.

    Although it took a lot to do it, and I wondered whether I should have written about such private and painful events from my past I still felt that I needed to explain myself because of the unwanted influence of those experiences.

    I'm glad that I did now as you have given me such a understanding reply. I've also received some great support from another member I regularly chat with too.

    I was worried about coming over badly to others too by what I'd written but I feel much more reassured now.

    You're right that the teaching standards are so much better than they used to be in our day and there is much more accountability for abuse and bullying, whoever it comes from.

    The problem though, in recent times is, I believe, as ever is from government interference and penny pinching, as you have pointed out, making life so difficult for both teachers and teaching staff like your best friend and yourself. That and especially difficult for children as they are having their life chances spoilt. 😞

    I believe that this government and successive ones, particularly since 2010 have set themselves up as the greatest enemy of all of us, being much worse than any bully that we might personally know, or have known in the past, in wherever situation.

    It is easy in a post to react to a particular opinion, I've done it myself but found that it's better to ask that person to put their issues into context. This is a friendly community and you are likely to get a worthwhile reply that will put your mind at rest.

    However, I must be very careful myself of not appearing to condemn a group of people, outright, which normally I make every effort to be as diplomatic as possible, so it surprised me.

    It just shows how deeply that traumatic past events can affect you, however long ago they are.

    I agree throughly that we should do our best to sort out our differences but particularly as we face such a vicious, powerful common enemy.

    Because of their great influence we have to fight them in large numbers and stand together. ✊ If we are divided, the (so called) government leadership will have more chance to get their own way.

    They don't help us at all with our emotions running so high because of the appalling things they are trying so hard to do to us. I believe that one of the reasons they want to upset us as much as they are doing is definitely to try to have us fall out with each other.

    I am glad that we can both resolve this issue in a cooperative and friendly way (I'm glad you like reading my other posts too!) and we can get back to fighting the real enemy. None of us should allow them divide and rule!! ✊

  • Catherine21
    Catherine21 Posts: 6,185 Championing

    I just read the letter DPAC sent to ECHR they pinpointed everything so let's hope ECHR really step in go on thier website and see I've had a day in bed feel like ugh I put my phone on airplane mode been emailing more mps there is no way we won't be heard no way

  • Catherine21
    Catherine21 Posts: 6,185 Championing

    I'm shocked that most of these score under four !! Now this can be good because it shows what a scam it already is all of those conditions are life altering and we never challenged we are not talking a sore toe I'm so shocked actually seeing it on paper as I'm sure many mps public must be !!

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  • Catherine21
    Catherine21 Posts: 6,185 Championing

    My messages getting checked before sent out I agree with you my childhood was the same at school

  • egister
    egister Posts: 1,026 Pioneering

    Your words about systematic school bullying made me remember something. In Russia's domestic propaganda, it is Great Britain, since the times of the Russian Empire to this day (except 1914-1917, 1941-1945), that is presented as a state that constantly commits meanness. Neither Germany, nor France, nor the USA … - no one else has been awarded such "honors" over the centuries.

    School education is part of state policy. I won't be mistaken if the bullying of schoolchildren by teachers is not accidental, but is an element of "education". Although officially this will of course always be denied.

  • Catherine21
    Catherine21 Posts: 6,185 Championing
  • egister
    egister Posts: 1,026 Pioneering

    Of these three, only Hitler pursued a targeted policy against the incurable disabled. Stalin and Mussolini, on the contrary, tried in every way to improve the lives of the disabled.

  • egister
    egister Posts: 1,026 Pioneering
  • Catherine21
    Catherine21 Posts: 6,185 Championing

    Labour the gift that keeps giving more vile proposals

  • Catherine21
    Catherine21 Posts: 6,185 Championing

    What would happen to us if this happened

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  • egister
    egister Posts: 1,026 Pioneering

    Sir, baronnes... it's time to get rid of these medieval prefixes.