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Well, for me I was (nearly) a lifelong Labour voter, but NEVER AGAIN 😡 after this. I will never be able to forgive or forget after what has been done to us. As far as I'm concerned, Starmer has consigned them to history.
I will never vote Conservative anyway and that's lifelong. I'm too left leaning for that.
I did do a protest vote with the Lib Dems when odious Blair was in after he started to show his true colours but would not vote for them now after what they did with the Conservatives in the coalition, against disabled people. Their current leader Ed Davey apparently doesn't have a good track record of dealing with disabled people, in the coalition years.
That leaves the Green Party. I think green issues are important but not as important as they do. The main thing about the Greens is that their attitude towards disabled people is excellent,
Their manifesto promises to us at the GE last year were spot on, like Jeremy Corbyn's were before the Labour right wing unfairly smeared him with untrue accusations and got him kicked out of the party.
I believe that a lot more people than Starmer thinks, will vote for the Greens and the Lib Dems and they will be a substantial part of the reason why Labour will lose the next GE.
I reckon that Reform UK will be part of the reason why Labour will lose the election but not the main reason, as delusional Starmer thinks!
Labour have a lot more to fear from their own voters going to the Greens and Lib Dems than going to Reform.
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Thank you 😊 I got a pair of glasses I'm really pleased with 🤓 but I find it so difficult to deal with people I don't know with my anxiety disorder. Anyway, I've only got to wait for my glasses now.
I think that we have so much in the way of support for our cause that they have will have to reduce the effects of the cuts a lot for us or alternatively they will be forced into letting us engage properly with the consulation plus being made to wait until the other impact assessments come in, especially the OBR's in October so that MPs can really see in detail the terrible consequences to us of these cuts.
That would blow the whole thing wide open, ministers gaslighting would no longer work and MPs would be able to see our situation for what it actually is and what it always was.
A money saving exercise, with nothing to do with getting disabled people, most of who can't work, back into work. Even those that can work, if they lose their support, they will lose their jobs anyway.
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Absolutely right! 😡 The DWP try to override everybody, even top surgeons, in your case.
The DWP have been given too much power and don't they know it! 😤
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Timms is the Lord Voldemort of the DWP and Kendall Bellatrix lestrange.
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Well this is interesting, just for info don't want to cause any upset. Hope it works as a cut and pase.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/05/30/benefits-foreigners-near-cost-1bn-month/
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I want to thank you all for contributing to this important and emotional discussion around the proposed Green Paper and benefit reforms. It’s clear how deeply these issues affect us, and it’s completely understandable that many are feeling angry, worried, and let down, those feelings are valid, and I hope you all continue to share them here.
However, I do need to gently remind everyone that personal insults or comments about the appearance of MPs or anyone else aren’t appropriate here. These kinds of posts have had to be removed as they go against the spirit of the community and can undermine the powerful points people are making.
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I imagine you were tired out afterwards. I had to make one official call and had to sleep afterwards. Of course I then wake in pain again. I can imagine how fatigued you were afterwards.
Regarding the points system I agree the way it seems to you is worse , though it’s all bad for some. The thing that scares me is the mps voting don’t understand the pip system. For them to be told “ only” 10% will lose pip when it’s clearly the other way around is ridiculous. The original 4 point rule would almost wipe out standard albeit 13% who get the 4 points . I would be among the enhanced 13% who don’t get 4 points so no longer disabled yet currently on enhanced. Your thinking would mean almost all of us losing . Standard no longer existing and only those in the top points of enhanced. They’re determined to leave us with nothing and I don’t think it’s to do with money. They’re throwing money around without worrying apart from when it comes to us . And if they continue to reinstate the WFA( which they should) and scrap the two child limit they won’t save a penny from us in fact it’ll cost them in tribunals. They’re saying they need to bring down the welfare bill but it will increase if anything . Compared to what they’re spending we are talking small amounts . It’s like when they compared pip to pocket money, well to them it is . It’s probably what they claim in expenses each day .1 -
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I imagine if they did this there would be a lot of upset and possibly aggressive patients /claimants at the Drs surgery. This could potentially put the staff at risk . Don’t job centres have security guards? Will our Dr surgeries now need security too ?
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I can’t see GPs willing to get involved in this . I take there would be quotas like the assessors seem to have . They can’t say everyone is too sick to work as the government wants the opposite.
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They want to take the power GP's have of giving fit notes away also.
They do not want you to have a penny if you can't work, it's that simple and apparently doing that will help Labour beat Reform, it's absolute lunacy, Labour are a one term government and I never want to see them anywhere near government ever again after this.
Oh Labour have an answer if we can't work, it's called euthanasia.
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What a coincidence the assisted dying bill at the same time as removing out benefits. I’m sure I read some time ago a MP saying they’re concerned by this
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Catherine I saw this earlier and thought of you 😀. Everywhere it’s saying starmers days are numbered. I know people say the Labour Party don’t oust their PMs like the Tory’s do but I think these are different circumstances now .
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I sent the link to that article about Timms to Starmer , badenoch , Abraham’s and Jeremy. Think I’ll send it to Rayner tmrw. That should be all over the msm and he said be sacked , odious man
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Jason They want to take the power GP's have of giving fit notes away also.
(from A guide for General Practitioners and other doctors February 2010)
"Why change? Improving your patients’ health through work. Evidence shows that work has therapeutic value and is generally good for physical and mental health.
With the introduction of the new Statement the Forms Med 3 and Med 5 have been streamlined into one form. Also, because of the recent introduction of Employment and Support Allowance (ESA), you no longer have to fill in Form Med 4;"
Med 4 medical evidence to support an incapacity benefits claim was abolished in 2010 and replaced with the 'fit note' for ESA.
GPs' (and NHS Consultant doctors) exclusive authority to issue a Med 3 Statement to patients was abolished in 2016 and shared with any old 'health professional' you've never met. UC already does not have to accept a 'fit note' and is now telling GPs not to write one.
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