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Just read this in The daily express
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What makes me laugh is thier response thier still sticking to the old same old story Liz kendell must be spitting feathers can you imagine her saying off with thier Heads !!
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I'm similar living with fibymalgia and chronic pain.
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Even reading some people only get 6 to 15 minutes care ah my heart they are cruel I'm glad people see the cruelty thier doing it to everyone not one person in uk not suffering because of them so literally shove food down someone's mouth no wash just bed it's not nurse or support workers fault its a national disgrace
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I’ve started emailing MPs luvpink as if there were descriptors for fatigue and pain we would get the 4 points easily. I think the form should have sections for neurodivergence MH fatigue etc as the questions are too vague.
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OOh I love this thanks juls
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Love ❤️ 😍
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I haven't been well enough to email anyone lately.
I had to submit my reassessment form in a few weeks ago even though my current award doesn't expire until September 2026.
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I only email when I’m up to it luvpink . I have a migraine again today so taking it easy .
I don’t think they know what they’re doing. Did you ask them why you’re being assessed so soon ? Mines up February and I haven’t received a form yet .0 -
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I didn't ask them.
I just wanted get it sent off.
I think they made a mistake as my original award was due to expire in August this year but they extended it by a year and it seems they may have forgotten that.
They can be quite incompetent at times.
I was cheeky and requested either paper based or phone assessment and a longer ongoing award as I will be 63 next year.
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If we talk about politicians from a hundred years ago, then Labour is most similar to the communists. For example, as a result of copying from the USSR, they adopted , also NHS is a result of copying the Soviet health care system.
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I know during lockdown my form went in and they kept extending my award . I think it was extended for another year but they suddenly assessed me before the year was up . At least you get this all over with before any possible changes which is good . I have heard they’re doing on paper if they have all the evidence so fingers crossed 🤞 for you .
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Farage is less evil than the Tories and Labour these days.
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So intreasting really is I would never have thought that
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I emailed Farage . Didn’t get a reply but I think I’ll email again. It’s worth explaining that we aren’t fakes and we shouldn’t be treated as second class citizens. And they keep telling us how many millions are classed as disabled well that’s alit of votes .
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I emailed my (Tory) MP about some local issues that are going on, because one of them I know he was actively opposing, so while I did that I also mentioned the welfare cuts. His comeback on that was quite interesting. He basically said that while it's only a green paper, not much can be done, but if it is brought before parliament he will be scrutinising it and will oppose anything that is not in the interests of his constituents.
That's the most proactive response I've had from him in ages. Maybe it's because he lost his massive majority last election, or because he has a chance to oppose Labour…but he has been helpful in disabled issues in the past, so I guess we'll see how that pans out.
The 2017 attempt to restrict mobility absolutely hit me. I am certain my shift from DLA to PIP came up then because they thought they could ditch me off as anxiety and thus cut me off completely. They certainly tried to rewrite my case file to claim I wasn't anxious enough to qualify for support, even though I never claimed for anxiety…and they never completed the MH part of the assessment. I called them out on this in the tribunal, but by this time the whole thing had been blocked by the courts, so it all worked out.
I don't believe in calling anyone evil. At the same time, there is no benefit to disabled people to contact or encourage Reform UK in any way, since they believe in almost entire reduction of welfare benefits and very tight sanctions on people not in work. If you contact him, you are giving him both your contact details…and the opportunity to mislead more people into thinking they'll be better off with a Reform govt. Let's not do that.
It is the LABOUR backbenchers who have helped give this revolt momentum. It is the LABOUR backbenchers who are arguing, not the Tories, not Reform. Let's keep that in mind. As I said before, I didn't vote Labour in the last election and I don't agree with several things the Labour party are doing/believe in doing (for example, we're going to have even more rubbish homes built here without any additional infrastructure, because we're not a Labour ward and so can't argue)…
But I DO believe that there are more Labour MPs who care about us than there are in Reform and Conservatives put together, let's not lose sight of that.3 -
Yeah a lot of people on benefits and work site have said they had paper based.
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Just some of the drivel Liz Kendall has said that's been proven to be untrue, I'm shocked by the amount of lies she's come up with (well not really). That woman coudn't lie straight in bed!!
1. Claim: Some Benefit Claimants Are “Taking the Mickey”
In a February 2025 interview with ITV, Kendall stated that some individuals on sickness or disability benefits were “taking the mickey” and should not be receiving support. This comment was met with significant backlash from disability charities and experts, who argued that such rhetoric fuels stigma and could deter eligible individuals from seeking assistance. Notably, the Department for Work and Pensions reported that PIP fraud rates were only 0.2% in 2022–23, suggesting that the vast majority of claimants are legitimate. The Independent+2Big Issue+2GB News+2Parallel Parliament+1Parallel Parliament+1
2. Claim: PIP Was Never Intended for Mental Health Conditions
Kendall asserted that PIP "was never set up to deal with [mental health] problems." However, this claim is inaccurate. PIP was explicitly designed to assist individuals with both physical and mental health conditions that incur additional living costs. Mental health conditions have always been within the scope of PIP eligibility. LBC
3. Claim: Tightening PIP Eligibility Will Focus Support on Those with the Greatest Need
Kendall has argued that reforms to PIP eligibility criteria aim to concentrate resources on individuals with the most significant needs. However, analyses indicate that these changes may disproportionately affect older claimants with physical conditions like arthritis and back pain. For instance, over 75% of such claimants may lose benefits under the new criteria, while fewer claimants with conditions like ADHD, depression, and anxiety will be affected. The Independent+8The Times+8The Guardian+8
4. Claim: Work Is Beneficial for Mental Health, Including Serious Conditions
Kendall has stated that employment is beneficial for mental health, even for serious conditions like psychosis and schizophrenia. While some studies suggest that appropriate employment can aid mental well-being, this is highly individual and contingent on factors such as job suitability, support systems, and the nature of the mental health condition. Generalizing this claim overlooks the complexities involved and may not hold true for all individuals. GB News+1LBC+1
These statements have sparked considerable debate and concern among disability advocates, experts, and the public. Critics argue that such rhetoric and policy proposals risk undermining the support system for disabled individuals and may lead to increased hardship for vulnerable populations.Big Issue+1The Times+1
Controversy Surrounds Liz Kendall's Statements on Disability Benefits
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Think I'm actually more qualified than Kendall to do her job (and more compassionate)
While she has significant policy experience, she has no direct lived experience or formal qualifications in disability, welfare rights, or social security law. Critics argue that this makes her less equipped to oversee the DWP, especially at a time when benefit reforms deeply affect vulnerable populations.
❓ Are There Better Choices?
Here are a few Labour MPs with relevant experience or perspectives:
🔹 Marsha de Cordova (MP for Battersea)
- Former Shadow Minister for Disabled People.
- Is legally blind and speaks from lived experience with disability.
- Has worked in the voluntary sector on disability rights.
- Strong critic of government disability benefit assessments.
Why better: Deep understanding of the lived impact of welfare policies.
🔹 Debbie Abrahams (MP for Oldham East and Saddleworth)
- Former Shadow Work and Pensions Secretary under Jeremy Corbyn.
- Strong background in public health and inequality.
- Vocal advocate for a fairer, more compassionate welfare state.
Why better: Experience in the actual DWP brief, and public health grounding.
🔹 Vicky Foxcroft (MP for Lewisham Deptford)
- Current Shadow Minister for Disabled People.
- Has focused on youth violence, mental health, and disability inclusion.
- Supports co-producing policies with disabled people.
Why better: Actively engages with disabled communities and supports rights-based reform.
🔎 Summary
Name
Relevant Experience
Potential Advantage Over Kendall
Liz Kendall
Policy think tanks, public health
Not specialised in disability or social security
Marsha de Cordova
Disability rights work, lived experience
Directly understands the benefit system's flaws
Debbie Abrahams
DWP experience, public health
Track record in benefits reform
Vicky Foxcroft
Youth & disability policy focus
Closer to frontline experiences of claimants
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Oh no! You too Catherine. 😞
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