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  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Online Community Member Posts: 1,307 Championing

    I’ve seen millibands name mentioned. I think he’s against the cuts if I remember correctly

  • Martinp
    Martinp Online Community Member Posts: 187 Empowering

    probably be Kendall knowing our luck

  • Ross1975
    Ross1975 Online Community Member Posts: 190 Empowering

    For what it's worth (ChatGPT can sometimes get things wrong) here's ChatGPT's view on who is likely to become Labour leader if Starver goes.

    Here’s a realistic step-by-step breakdown of how a leadership challenge to Keir Starmer could unfold if he stays the course on welfare reform and the backlash continues to escalate:

    ⚠️ 1. Continued Public & Internal Backlash

    • Public sentiment: If Labour refuses to scrap the two-child benefit cap or backtracks only partially on WFP reform, it would deepen the anger already growing among activists, charities, and ordinary voters—especially those hit hardest by austerity.
    • Party tension: MPs on the soft left and Labour left could begin openly criticising Starmer’s direction, breaking ranks in Parliament and in the media.
    • Key trigger: Another poor performance — e.g. in a by-election, European/local elections, or key polling drops — would amplify pressure.

    🧨 2. Soft Coup or Shadow Cabinet Revolt

    • Likely ringleaders: If it’s clear that Starmer’s leadership is politically damaging, figures like Angela Rayner, Lisa Nandy, or backbenchers like Clive Lewis or Zarah Sultana could speak out.
    • Cabinet resignations: It wouldn’t take many to trigger a leadership crisis. If even 2–3 prominent frontbenchers resigned and publicly cited moral concerns over welfare policies, it could shatter the image of unity.
    • Unions: Powerful voices like UNISON, Unite, and the GMB could publicly withdraw support or demand a rethink — which carries huge symbolic weight.

    🗳️ 3. Formal Leadership Challenge

    • Under Labour rules, a leadership challenge requires:
      • A contender to gain nominations from 20% of Labour MPs (currently around 40 MPs).
      • If successful, it triggers a full leadership election open to Labour members and affiliated supporters.

    Realistically, challengers like Angela Rayner or even someone like Lisa Nandy could reach that threshold if discontent reached critical mass.

    🔄 4. Starmer Steps Down or Fights

    • If he steps down voluntarily (possibly to avoid a bruising leadership contest), the party could rally around a consensus candidate.
    • If he stays and fights, the contest could become a struggle for Labour’s soul — with factions mobilising members either for a soft-left/social-democratic challenger or a continuity centrist like Reeves or Streeting.

    🔚 5. Membership Revolt

    • The party's membership still leans significantly to the left of the current leadership. If a challenger emerges with a strong platform focused on:
      • Ending the two-child cap
      • Reversing harmful disability/work capability changes
      • Public ownership and pro-worker policies

    ...they could potentially win the membership vote, as Corbyn did in 2015.

    🔁 In Summary:

    A Starmer leadership crisis is most likely if:

    • He doubles down on controversial welfare policies,
    • Labour suffers another major electoral warning sign, and
    • One or more credible figures break ranks publicly.

    In that case, Rayner, Nandy, or even a more grassroots-backed candidate could rise — with the party turning away from technocracy and toward reasserting its social justice credentials.

  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Online Community Member Posts: 1,307 Championing

    omg don’t or reeves. Kendall whenever talking about disability looks demonic with rage and hatred . A very strange woman

  • Ross1975
    Ross1975 Online Community Member Posts: 190 Empowering
    edited May 8

    If Keir goes because of damaging the party with the WFP cuts and benefit reforms I think it's probably unlikely that the new leader would be someone like Kendall who is all for the cuts and reforms, as it wouldn't really change anything. I think it would probably be someone who is against the cuts and reforms.

  • Ross1975
    Ross1975 Online Community Member Posts: 190 Empowering
  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Online Community Member Posts: 1,307 Championing
  • jul1aorways
    jul1aorways Online Community Member Posts: 386 Pioneering

    I've seen it said in the Guardian that the most likely candidate is Wes Streeting. 😒 No hope of any improvement then!!

  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Online Community Member Posts: 1,307 Championing

    oh god no . But if the welfare cuts were to finish Starmer off or at least harm him would anyone else risk it ?

  • jul1aorways
    jul1aorways Online Community Member Posts: 386 Pioneering
    edited May 8

    Have you noticed that her eyes go black too!! 😳

    She is a really nasty piece of work. How dare she say we are the one's "taking the mickey". She ought to take a good look at herself in the mirror! 😡

  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Online Community Member Posts: 1,307 Championing

    starmer has beady little black eyes too . I’m wondering if they’re really human at all or imposters . Invasion of the body snatchers

  • jul1aorways
    jul1aorways Online Community Member Posts: 386 Pioneering
  • jul1aorways
    jul1aorways Online Community Member Posts: 386 Pioneering

    There will be someone who wants to take his place. There always is. 🙄 Many of them don't seem to occupy the same dimension as the rest of us. Or have any common sense, most of all. 🤔

  • bellatango
    bellatango Online Community Member Posts: 44 Contributor

    https://hansard.parliament.uk/commons/2025-05-07/debates/AF9A4463-0EB6-426A-AAD4-BB78FA659B82/PersonalIndependencePaymentDisabledPeople

  • bellatango
    bellatango Online Community Member Posts: 44 Contributor
  • JasonRA
    JasonRA Online Community Member Posts: 230 Trailblazing

    If Labour stick with Starmer/Reeves/Kendall they are toast at the next election. They are not popular with even the Labour membership who usually lean more to the Left, local Labour associations do not like Starmer and it's a fact and the the reasons are cuts to benefits and the winter fuel allowance and taking a harder stance other subjects, that Starmer has abandoned Labour values.

    Reform are set to win the next election and no they are not friends of disabled people, they parrot the same nonsense about GP's over medicalising, "mental health is the new bad back" ect, if that is the case why not hire psychiatrists to assess people on mental health grounds?

  • lincsgranny
    lincsgranny Online Community Member Posts: 57 Contributor

    I thought the same think she needs to get some anger management as the rage towards people getting welfare help, you'd think was coming out her own pocket

  • Passerby
    Passerby Posts: 390 Trailblazing

    Most of them are not even loyal to Keir Starmer; they're just in for their job, which they'll end up losing if they let themselves used by Starmer for his demonic plan.

  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Online Community Member Posts: 1,307 Championing
  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Online Community Member Posts: 1,307 Championing

    Let’s hope they stab him in the back and get rid of him