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How the mighty fall
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report in the guardian states 42 MPs are calling on Starmer to cancel the welfare reforms . Sorry I don’t know how to link it but maybe someone else can
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I just read that . Hopefully there’s even more that can’t vote it through on the day . I wonder if there are any Tory’s etc who will vote against
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Last week's vote and reform getting votes has made mps open thier eyes thankgod for voting I feel better today hopeful x
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yes Catherine and Mike amesbury gave an interview where he said he’s lost his house now as can’t afford it . He said they need to think about that . So they may not care about us but they must be thinking is loyalty to Starmer worth ruining their career over.
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nothing to do with with being convicted of giving a hiding to a member of the public and losing his job when he lied about it you reap what you sow
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Oh right that one night ruined his life and the lady with the red hair she was in public transport department she had to leave and she said starner needs to change course it's like the domino's effect just starts with one person being brave and outspoken then rest followed more so after voting day I think as weeks go on it will be alot more mps no one wants to lose thier jobs or be called the nasty party especially new mps
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Thank you, I know all that). But I'm not very well immersed in the facts of the struggle and don't know the intricacies of its history like, for example, @WhatThe . I'm just analyzing the history of psychological qperations of the last couple of hundred years and adapting it to current events for the benefit of the disabled. I hope this will be useful.
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100% right Michael. He should be in prison. It was obviously his way of garnering sympathy for a career comeback but the fact his been pushed off the gravy train must surely make back benchers think . They’re not rich like Starmer and reeves
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I think that Louise haigh if I remember correctly. What a bunch they are. Fraud , battery , indecent exposure towards a child ( can’t remember his name ) . Literally if this was the Tory’s Starmer would have a lot to say . The only way to save themselves is to get rid of the cuts and Starmer and he can take demented Kendall reeves Timms with him
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I wrote that in email to my mp I said starmer reeves kendell will leave with millions I said mps will leave with damaged reputations
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I thought about timms bet he wishes he didn't aline with them I can't wait to see thier evil faces when this doesn't happen or is watered down does anyone know what was said in consultation last night the one where they called the police and was only open to 20 people!!!!
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starmer probably has his next job lined up. He doesn’t care about the uk or being PM. It’s all a stepping stone. But once he’s gone they’re left behind and they won’t even be the opposition next time they’ll be finished
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No I just the clip on DPAC Facebook group
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There’s a new petition on change. Org shared on DPAC . Creat a dedicated minister for the disabled. I don’t know how to link it here but if someone can that could help spread the word
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Lets hope he goes soon who would take his place
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Probably just another wicked person.
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I’ve seen millibands name mentioned. I think he’s against the cuts if I remember correctly
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probably be Kendall knowing our luck
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For what it's worth (ChatGPT can sometimes get things wrong) here's ChatGPT's view on who is likely to become Labour leader if Starver goes.
Here’s a realistic step-by-step breakdown of how a leadership challenge to Keir Starmer could unfold if he stays the course on welfare reform and the backlash continues to escalate:
⚠️ 1. Continued Public & Internal Backlash
- Public sentiment: If Labour refuses to scrap the two-child benefit cap or backtracks only partially on WFP reform, it would deepen the anger already growing among activists, charities, and ordinary voters—especially those hit hardest by austerity.
- Party tension: MPs on the soft left and Labour left could begin openly criticising Starmer’s direction, breaking ranks in Parliament and in the media.
- Key trigger: Another poor performance — e.g. in a by-election, European/local elections, or key polling drops — would amplify pressure.
🧨 2. Soft Coup or Shadow Cabinet Revolt
- Likely ringleaders: If it’s clear that Starmer’s leadership is politically damaging, figures like Angela Rayner, Lisa Nandy, or backbenchers like Clive Lewis or Zarah Sultana could speak out.
- Cabinet resignations: It wouldn’t take many to trigger a leadership crisis. If even 2–3 prominent frontbenchers resigned and publicly cited moral concerns over welfare policies, it could shatter the image of unity.
- Unions: Powerful voices like UNISON, Unite, and the GMB could publicly withdraw support or demand a rethink — which carries huge symbolic weight.
🗳️ 3. Formal Leadership Challenge
- Under Labour rules, a leadership challenge requires:
- A contender to gain nominations from 20% of Labour MPs (currently around 40 MPs).
- If successful, it triggers a full leadership election open to Labour members and affiliated supporters.
Realistically, challengers like Angela Rayner or even someone like Lisa Nandy could reach that threshold if discontent reached critical mass.
🔄 4. Starmer Steps Down or Fights
- If he steps down voluntarily (possibly to avoid a bruising leadership contest), the party could rally around a consensus candidate.
- If he stays and fights, the contest could become a struggle for Labour’s soul — with factions mobilising members either for a soft-left/social-democratic challenger or a continuity centrist like Reeves or Streeting.
🔚 5. Membership Revolt
- The party's membership still leans significantly to the left of the current leadership. If a challenger emerges with a strong platform focused on:
- Ending the two-child cap
- Reversing harmful disability/work capability changes
- Public ownership and pro-worker policies
...they could potentially win the membership vote, as Corbyn did in 2015.
🔁 In Summary:
A Starmer leadership crisis is most likely if:
- He doubles down on controversial welfare policies,
- Labour suffers another major electoral warning sign, and
- One or more credible figures break ranks publicly.
In that case, Rayner, Nandy, or even a more grassroots-backed candidate could rise — with the party turning away from technocracy and toward reasserting its social justice credentials.
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