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Kemi's three demands are wicked. Starmer cannot work with her. He would lose the support of even more Labour MPs and probably junior ministers in both Houses.
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@lincsgranny The Speaker has minimal (if any) power to punish/ not punlish disabled people. His function is to support the will of parliament (not the government). In fulfilling his role, the most he can do is accept the ammmendment at the time of the Second Reaading of the Bill to enable MPs halt the Bill or let it move on.
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Soooo it IS a money bill.
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Everyday torment ive crashed burned cant get out of bed starmer lot to answer too
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The comment in the Times this morning from Reeves that the rebellion will 'devastate' the government.
Maybe think of that before devastating disabled people's lives.
This itself is not a no confidence vote, however. Voting on/against the welfare bill does not constitute a vote of no confidence in the government. There would have to be a vote of no confidence explicitly levelled at the government in order for that to happen.
The Labour MPs opposing this bill have not necessarily opposed Starmer on other bills, and are not necessarily of the mind to call a vote of no confidence. They also have a good majority, so I think if it did come to that stage, Labour MPs would protect their own interests and vote against the motion.
This is scaremongering to try and frighten the rebels back into line. It's pretty disgusting but I don't suppose it will work if nothing else has.
The answer for Starmer is to back down and scrap the bill, engage with disabled people in a full consultation, invest in employment equality and then come back to the discussion in a year or two.If there is an election, by the way, it is very bad news for us given Reform's surge in the polls and Farage's desire to eradicate the majority of the welfare state, as well as equality legislation. Labour even in their current state are a safer option because there are so many Labour MPs trying to change the rhetoric.
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Mel stride taking on Rayner at 12 at prime minster questions 👀
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You’re so right Amaya, our best chance is unfortunately Labour . I hope this removes starmer and someone less hateful replaces him
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The idea that the Tories are “helping” Labour pass welfare reforms is baffling. It is hard to see how anyone could reach that conclusion. Kemi’s so called offer is not genuine support, it is a political trap tied to a hardline wish list, deeper welfare cuts, a tax freeze, and forcing more people into work. Starmer would have to accept her ultimatums just to secure Tory votes. If he agrees, it would be political suicide.
We will not have long to wait. At PMQs today, Kemi will almost certainly press her demands in public. If Starmer is going to accept, she wants his pledge made openly and on her terms. In just a couple of hours, we will see whether we are about to witness a Labour/Tory pact on welfare reforms. If Starmer gives in to Conservative terms, he risks turning Labour’s internal tensions into open warfare. I suspect next weeks vote could well be delayed while Kier tries to win back the Labour rebels with concessions.
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If he accepts her offer he’s basically admitting imo that he’s actually more aligned with Tory policies than Labour . Maybe if they oust him he can join the Tory’s though I doubt they’d want him
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Fantastic post. Labour has the majority to anticipate two terms. A cautious and compassionate, non-rushed approach was the way to go. It could have been so different.
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Matter of speech how to put it if I'm not clued up on things let's hope it all works out
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In a useful nutshell: advice to MPs as to what to expect at the Second Reading:
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Cabinet ministers have been given lists of Labour MPs to ring. Hit the phones and twist the arms, are the instructions from the prime minister to his senior team.
But, so far at least, it isn't working.''
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Just now in the guardian
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Also the guardian
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I think Mel stride is standing in for Kemi . According to the guardian Corbyn on the list to ask a question
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