Scope's reply to the governments planned concessions to the green paper.

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  • alexroda
    alexroda Online Community Member Posts: 377 Trailblazing
  • Fudge40
    Fudge40 Online Community Member Posts: 6 Listener

    Well, there are down sides to bipolar disorder and I to be honest I wouldn't wish it on my worst enemy!. I have had two nervous breakdowns because of it, and been made homeless twice!, but, NOT on the street as I am very lucky and I come from a lovely family we are all blood related, but its very sad for me as NOT one of them suffers with bipolar disorder!. I have always felt the black sheep of the family because of it!. The ONLY person in my family that had bipolar was my deceased great aunt Win and I can't exactly talk to her!. I am going to go to a self help group run by my favourite charity Bipolar U.K!. Our CEO is Simon Kitchen and when I leave this world I am going to donate a large piece of my money to Bipolar U.K. At my very worst I am in a darkened room for hours asleep, hardly being able to feed myself, not going out to see any one and wishing I really really wasn't in this world!. The stable times are the best as I feel half normal then lol!. Then theres the high times I then feel I am superwoman and I can conquer the world!. Many people with bipolar become famous writers as we have a vivid imagination and high creative skills.

    I am writing all this as I WANT to spread awareness of bipolar disorder!, at the moment I am feeling VERY GOOD and VERY WELL. I am NOT here to patronize, or critsise people in society as at the end of the day I am only a person with a heartbeat that is trying to do her best for people in this sometimes difficult, distressing, mixed up world we live in!. So, please don't take any of this personally as I am only trying to explain my illness. I do have Bipolar U.K and there are many people in my home town that have bipolar unfortunately bless their hearts and I send them my love!

    I have my own language business, and you will find a LOT of people with bipolar are Entrepreneurs!. We can ONLY work in certain environments you see! We can do library work, therapist jobs, gardening, cleaning, accountancy. Jobs where we have a small team and are left to our own devices as bipolar is a stress related disease, so please don't put too much stress on us! . We are above average intelligence and Sir Winston Churchill had bipolar he called it the black dog! I am lucky because I have NO addictions, I don't smoke, I hardly drink, only once a week on a saturday night!, I have never done drugs in my life either. My parents have been married 56 years and I come from a stable and fairly loving family. So when I hear someone say oh she must of got bipolar from being on drugs its NOT true! as my younger brother says I am a goody two shoes!, I am a trained teacher after all. I am not allowed a criminal record and I have never done drugs!. At school I was a total swot head!, I did really well for myself yet I felt very sad and isolated as I have had bipolar since I was 10 years old!. I was a child of the 1970's and 1980's I was a thatchers child. We had no mobile phones and no internet when I was a child and we had no awareness of disabilites!. There was no dyslexia, autism, bipolar, border line personality specialists and we were given a slap on the back and told to just get on with it! My nephew Oliver is very lucky, as today they call them cotton wall kids and they have all the help under the sun bless them. I hope my post has spread some awareness as I am NOT here to offend anyone either. Thankyou if you take the time to read this. Take care everyone on this site as we live in difficult times, god bless you all much love xxxx

  • alexroda
    alexroda Online Community Member Posts: 377 Trailblazing

    says the government parrot

    You are sold lies, many other European countries are having the same problem with sickness. And they are saying the same argument this government is saying when it comes to young people.

    All ignoring we have gone through a pandemic, with a virus that none understand and has been allowed to run through the population unchecked and people are getting continuously reinfected.

    You have done no research you are just a parrot

  • alexroda
    alexroda Online Community Member Posts: 377 Trailblazing

    As a % of GDP, the UK government is spending the same amount on working-age benefits as it was in 2015. This stands at around 5% and is not projected to change by 2030. This is because we have seen deep cuts to benefits like Universal Credit alongside the increase in people claiming health and disability benefits.

  • Fudge40
    Fudge40 Online Community Member Posts: 6 Listener

    I meant todays children are called cotton wool kids, sorry lol!

  • alexroda
    alexroda Online Community Member Posts: 377 Trailblazing

    As a % of GDP, the UK government is spending the same amount on working-age benefits as it was in 2015. This stands at around 5% and is not projected to change by 2030. This is because we have seen deep cuts to benefits like Universal Credit alongside the increase in people claiming health and disability benefits.

  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Online Community Member Posts: 2,052 Championing

    Just popped up on my phone . If any can post the whole article would appreciate

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  • luvpink
    luvpink Online Community Member Posts: 4,254 Championing

    Hi Lovely

    Its all so confusing.

    I can't flipping keep up.

    I been trying to avoid the news etc as I know it will make me ill again.

    Take care. X

  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Online Community Member Posts: 2,052 Championing

    Hi luvpink,

    I know what you mean . With ME any stress makes it worse and really we’ve all felt this since Sunak green paper. I haven’t eaten properly since then not that I ate much before . Let’s hope he either gives some good concessions today or better still it’s all voted down 🤞. Take care ❤️

  • Amaya_Ringo
    Amaya_Ringo Online Community Member Posts: 417 Championing
    edited June 2025

    It's difficult to know what the Telegraph intends when it writes a story like that, given it's the same paper which last year gave readers a calculator to work out how much of their 'hard earned' tax was going to those not in work.

    I think we should be paying more attention to the people who are trying to claim PIP legitimately but who are stuck in reviews, at MR, rejected for no real reason. I think that should be a bigger topic of conversation in this overall government debate. We'll officially call these 'errors', but they are errors with consequences, both for the tax-payer and the claimant. It's surprising to me that there is nothing in the bill mandating better scrutiny, objective DWP regulation and such to prevent these 'errors' from taking place.

    And nobody has calculated the saving that would be gleaned from fewer unnecessary appeals and tribunals, either.

    I wonder how much could be saved if the DWP carried out its own assessments with trained staff, rather than outsourcing to overstretched assessment companies who are not able to provide adequately trained assessors for the conditions in question.

    It's sad to keep seeing the "1000 people a day are joining PIP" parrot rhetoric when we all know - or should know - that there's never a case of 100% applicants being awarded PIP without being bogged down in these issues. Even if all those 1000 claimants are genuine, which they might well be. I've also seen no indication of whether all these claimants are new, or whether some of them are those who, like me, went through a tribunal and then had their review treated as a new claim.

    Another statistical consideration is that every year a % of children age up to 16. 16 is the migration age from DLA to PIP. So among that 1000 are probably many children who have claimed DLA and now need to be migrated. Having had conversations with parents stuck in this system and feeling helpless, I will guarantee you that none of those are easy or automatic processes either.

    There are always red flags when people talk about a number - and quote it - and then misquote it, but don't interrogate what it means. And herein lies the biggest problem with the bill - and some people's interpretations of it.

    I hope the bill will be scrapped though I think it unlikely that will happen now. But let's see what happens. If nothing else, the government have been made to realise that disabled people are not the easy target they might have been ten years ago - and that public opinion is beginning to shift in the direction of disability cuts will harm our society (including the NHS). I find that hopeful, as it means there are more people genuinely making themselves aware of the situation, rather than believing the stuff they read on social media.

    If you have an MP who was on the amendment, I think it's worth emailing them continued concerns about the bill even as it currently stands. We need a bill where it is understood that not all the 'reform' has to come from disabled people losing out, but also better regulation, guidance and enforcement of employer responsibilities as well.

  • luvpink
    luvpink Online Community Member Posts: 4,254 Championing

    No it isn't "sensitive overload" at all.

    It was an attempt to ridicule me and if you keep it up, I will report you.

  • Catherine21
    Catherine21 Online Community Member Posts: 9,796 Championing

    IIntreasting Do we think he could be backing off ??? What do people think

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    Sorry wrong order

  • Catherine21
    Catherine21 Online Community Member Posts: 9,796 Championing

    People gone quiet? Does anyone believe a word they say also let this go through and lwcra will probley breeze through only see 12 mps names on list so likely go through

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  • Catherine21
    Catherine21 Online Community Member Posts: 9,796 Championing

    I will offer to do a portrait of him 😉 might look like a stick man picture but one can try he spent thousands getting a portrait of himself looking like royalty!!!!

  • Catherine21
    Catherine21 Online Community Member Posts: 9,796 Championing

    Next reassessment it includes all they are wording it a certain way

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  • happyman
    happyman Online Community Member Posts: 99 Empowering

    What I do not understand about Keir Starmer and these changes. Why doesn't he use his common sense and invite people like scope and other experts to a meeting and get their input into this. It is obvious he does not understand what it is like to be in ill health. He has just decided this is a great idea to save money and not really looked into it.

  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Online Community Member Posts: 2,052 Championing

    Don’t know what that means . Isn’t that what happens now ?

  • happyman
    happyman Online Community Member Posts: 99 Empowering

    People still do not understand if the changes will affect them. For example if your award runs out after the changes, does the four point system affect you. He is not making it clear. Even when labour ministers were asked that question over the weekend, they did not know. And now, a labour mayor is telling MPs to vote against the changes. So, if he is still saying that, then he knows something we don't

  • alexroda
    alexroda Online Community Member Posts: 377 Trailblazing

    Starmer is a lawyer by trade, lawyers are never clear and withhold information on purpose.

    Same like politicians, but he has a double ration 😂

  • Catherine21
    Catherine21 Online Community Member Posts: 9,796 Championing
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