Scope's reply to the governments planned concessions to the green paper.
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I love the way you word and express yourself with such thought and consideration I've always found your posts educating and full of information and comforting
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So today's the day still time to email name and shame one last attempt I got a feeling this isn't going to go starmers way just my thoughts
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Send these to mps they won't want to be connected to this well I should hope not
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2028 says timms writing last lot up maybe wca uc health benefit has something to do with it
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Yh 2028
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It needs to be scrapped they can't be trusted
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Hhhh he used to work there
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Now we get to find out which MPs support the state sanctioned murder of disabled people via this vote today. Will be very telling.
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does anyone have any idea what time the vote will take place today? Thanks
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What's going to happen to all the unpaid carers who are now going to have to go back to work even though their loved ones are significantly disabled but don't score enough on the point system?
Who is going to provide the care for thousands of disabled people that thousands of carers currently do and how is that cost effective ?
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the idea is that disabled people who rely on unpaid carers suddenly lose them. and then if they cant fend for themselves, they die. in their eyes, it's worth it to "balance te books" or whatever neoliberal drivel they think is true.
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I think what dawned on me yesterday watching the Kendall presentation (imagine getting your own policy wrong, is there a disabled person who could do that job instead? Just a thought!) that the real bad taste for me is the lack of disabled voices, period.
Even disabled MPs have said, nobody has spoken to us about this. Nobody has reached out. But there's so much spin from the government about 'moral' decisions and 'what disabled people need' and the 'system is failing', etc.
None of that comes from disabled people, because disabled people are not being asked. They're being TOLD. It's like they assume disabled people lack capacity/are children needing guidance and instruction by the Adults in charge, rather than being the best informed people about their quality of life and about how to make changes to get a better system.
Every time the government have been asked about this they've deflected. If someone hired an all white committee to discuss the rights of ethnic minorities, or an all male committee to debate women's rights, you know there'd be uproar. But disabled people? We need 'taking care' of. We're acceptable in society so long as we let everyone else speak for and over us.
When we speak for ourselves we get abuse and backlash - we're going to have to live with that for the next few months however the bill lays down at tonight's vote. But there will be no apology, nor any acknowledgement that disabled people are kept out of work by systemic ableism and lack of support/adjustments.
No, it will be more of the moral speak designed to tell us what is best for our needs. Entirely about us without us :/
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Thanks for confirming this…. When do they want us to start dying ?
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The debate on the bill begins in the House of Commons at 12:40 PM, our first clear sign of how many MPs are willing to break ranks and vote with their conscience. The final vote is expected at 7 PM this evening.
If we do not get the result we hoped for, take heart. This isn’t the end, it’s simply the next step. If the vote doesn’t go our way, we regroup. We lobby harder. We speak with greater clarity. And however long it takes, we’ll stay the course, because real change is built on sustained pressure.
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Hi mw,
May I copy your mps reply and post elsewhere with no names shown please as there’s still some confusion
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Yes, absolutely, please do share it.
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I think they’ll get it through, but it sounds like whips are making severe deselection threats so clearly pressure still on.
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Thank you mw,
There’s also a dwp letter on here which I’ll look for
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I am feeling this way too. I don't want the stress of a PIP claim if my LCWRA is okay.
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