Scope's reply to the governments planned concessions to the green paper.
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I could be wrong but it’s obviously not Rachel maskell . It’s annoying me as I can’t find it now but I’m sure it was sky news. Either way she pulled the amendment and said she was voting fir the bill after bringing the amendment so it’s obvious it was to save her job
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I wonder what was also promised which they left out and why are they voting for the bill when starmers already gone back on one concession
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I think I'll do the same if I can pull myself away from the worry for a while. Just try to forget about it all for a few days and focus on something less stressful.
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I know it's been a really stressful time this year 😪
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does anyone know what time the vote will be tomorrow? Thanks.
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Watching it, Kendall said reassessments would be under new conditions. And then contradictions, she fell totally fell apart. I’m afraid she doesn’t know her own detail. So the concept of concessions protecting existing claimants is utter nonsense. Who knows what these so called ‘pathways’ mean as well, no detail and no detail on ESA.
This needs to stop now, it needs proper consultation, full detail and a transparent debate that’s aside from this manipulation of Parliamentary process which is currently going on. It’s extremely serious for lives going forward and the Labour party pushing forward to comply with some arbitrary fiscal rules while not consulting is despicable.
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There’s a post on here where the dwp wrote a letter explaining Kendall was wrong. Existing claimants stay within the old rules even if they have a reassessment or ask for a reassessment
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What worries me more is what the bill they want to get through would be paving the way for, which won't require any legislation and which would make us totally at the mercy of the DWP!
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I need a break too , we all do . Let’s face it this has been a year of this now since Sunak and Mel stride . Then a brief period when we thought we were safe until Starmer made his intentions clear by not making his intentions clear so we just second guessed everything. I really pray they lose tmrw and if the back benches had any sense they’d vote down just to get rid of starmer
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So she presented in the Commons and was delivering incorrect detail about her own Bill? Oh dear. Thanks for letting me know, I’ve been trying to get on top of it all but it’s difficult.
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When Starmer used to demonise the WCA and later on put welfare reforms into his manifesto, many of us thought that he was doing so on compassionate grounds and that he would improve and make life less difficult for the sick and disabled people!
Not many of us have ever imagined that these evil changes were on their way!
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Regardless of how tomorrow turns out, it could and probably will all change come the next General Election.
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Hi everyone. I have been following this link and feel that in addition to our contacting our own MPs it might send a loud message if we emailed every MP. Especially as many of us have MPs who will support this bill tomorrow. I found a legitimate web site which lists every MP including email contacts:
This appears to be a government website and I feel this issue is urgent enough for people to send polite emails to everyone with a vote on this.
Anyone clicking on the above link will find a .csv type file which can be downloaded. It can be opened as a spreadsheet in excel or numbers or similar program. I selected the cells containing email addresses and pasted them into the my email "to" . There are over 6 hundred emails which will probably exceed recipient limits but even sending batches would be good if enough people do so.
I am including a letter template that I used, if anyone is interested.
I know this is very late in the day but anyone more rebel votes that can be recruited are worth having.
Good luck everyone.
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It’s on her somewhere and probably online somewhere. It also said those on DLA who transfer over with be classed as existing claimant
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I watched an interview this morning with a Tory I think Danny Kruger who said they want to stop young people claiming for MH instead of older people with physical conditions like labours doing . I could be wrong due to my brain fog but I’m sure it was Kruger
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I absolutely knew passerby . I told the canvassers who knocked on my door and was assured he was on our side and that one of them said he wouldn’t be working for him if he was against the disabled as his own mum was. I wonder how he’s feeling now. I’ve always hated and distrusted him , there’s just something about him I don’t like
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I'm a loner, a complete loner, used to have friends but pushed them all away, locked myself away from the world long before Covid and it's sad I know, it's weak to say but just thank you to some people here.
Words do help and it's all of you which made me look at things less insular.
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Response from My MP – Follow-Up to last Saturday’s Meeting
This evening, I received a response from my MP addressing several of the questions I raised during our meeting last Saturday. She has provided clarity on the status of current DLA and PIP claimants, outlined who may be exempt from reassessment under the “severe conditions” criteria, and confirmed that local constituents will be able to participate in the PIP review consultation process. The terms of reference for that review have now been published via a written ministerial statement.
However, she did not address my question about whether this bill is being designated as a money bill before it reaches the House of Lords. I will be following up on that directly during the post-vote meeting this coming Saturday.
For those interested, below are her responses to questions I raised:
I promised to go away and get some clarity on the questions you raised about the reforms. Since we met the government has set out in a statement to the House the changes I outlined on Saturday.
Existing recipients of DLA – They will be brought onto PIP under the old criteria and treated as existing claimants with regard to any future changes.
Existing PIP claimants – The bill protects existing PIP claimants. Once the review of PIP descriptors is complete and implemented, any reassessments will be made against the new descriptors. However, if you are an existing claimant, the new 4-point rule being brought in by the bill will not apply.
PIP review consultation – I asked the Secretary of State directly in the Chamber today whether local constituents would have a chance to participate directly in the PIP review. She confirmed that you will. The terms of reference for the review have been published in a written ministerial statement today. I will organise a future event to support this process.
Severe conditions criteria – This relates to severe, lifelong, and progressive conditions that significantly affect a person's ability to perform daily living or mobility activities, with no realistic expectation of improvement. There isn't a specific list of these conditions, but they often include Parkinson’s, multiple sclerosis, muscular dystrophy, and severe mental illness, among others. If you have one of these conditions, you will not be reassessed and will continue to receive the enhanced UC health element.
I have also submitted several written questions on how this relates to cancer and those undergoing treatment.
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That's how I read this situation. Their **** desperation to push this through as a money bill is terrifying. For me, it can mean only one thing: their actual plans are even more horrific than they have mooted so far.
Kendall was her usual slimey self today when answering a question about how their legislation sits within the UN Charter/ECHR. She answered she was 'clear' the legislation was 'within the law'. She did not say which law, from where the law originated etc. etc.
Those Labour MPs are being gaslit. Once this legislation is in, without scrutiny from knowledgeable people/the House of Lords, Starver et al will have the gloves off, and their steel toecap boots on, and do whatever the f*ck they want without anyone having the ability to halt them.
The only ones who may have some power over them are the trades unions by removing funding from them.
I feel worse tonight than I did when this legislation was first mooted …. and it's down the stench of Kendall's desperation.
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Thank you for thatvMW. I wonder if it would be useful if I emailed Jeremy Corbyn to ask him if ME or fibromyalgia could come under severe . Or did your mp know these details as she’s Labour ?
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