Scope's reply to the governments planned concessions to the green paper.

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  • Tumilty
    Tumilty Online Community Member Posts: 414 Empowering

    What are the last minute concessions please?

    Is it still only new claimants that are affected or as the whole thing been thrown out?

  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Online Community Member Posts: 2,042 Championing

    I’d like to see more protection for us within the severe criteria and fluctuating conditions included. I understand some people may have long periods of remission but there are some like myself that although my ME is classed as a fluctuating condition I never has a remission not even a good day . I hope fatigue conditions is fought for especially now after Covid . I don’t think fatigue and pain are taken seriously enough.

  • Catherine21
    Catherine21 Posts: 7,542 Championing

    Everybody MUST not being bossy here One email thank all mps who fought for us Two if your mp voted FOR make clear they will feel the same as we do now when election day comes we have a week as people say alot can happen in a week pls don't give up I'm on a edge but last push for those who voted this in to think clearly I did ask an mp what if timms says he will do this then he doesn't he said it would be a resigning issue if that happened

  • Catherine21
    Catherine21 Posts: 7,542 Championing

    I see it diffrent if you have more than one disability it can be on going pain can hinder your life in many ways physical mentally great impact with face to face travelling everyday life

  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Online Community Member Posts: 2,042 Championing

    This is what I don’t understand. Right now you have people claiming lcwra but too scared to apply for pip . Once the system changes they will have to pass the pip assessment anyway to get lcwra/ health element but then they’ll also get pip too . At first it’ll be like the DLA to pip situation but hopefully over time more people will qualify as changes come in due to legal action. Over time surely this will cost more than it saves .

  • Danny123
    Danny123 Online Community Member Posts: 189 Empowering

    To be honest with you I'm to scared to apply , even though your right in everything you say , I think alot could change from now till then and I think there maybe some protection for people in my situation of recieving CBESA and LCWRA but no pip , because pip has wrongly dominated all the headlines but alot of people are aware that people in my situation will be hot hard by all this and I think the closer it approaches the more it will get a light shines on it , also for me I'll be honest I don't need extra money from pip , I get by fine with my CBESA and LCWRA for what I need , I'm pretty sure I'll get another reassessment before the new rules come in , so I'll concentrate on passing that and then see when my next reassessment date would fall .... And prepare accordingly .... What I will say is the state the dwp's in at the minute with backlogs alone and on top of that all these new changes aswell , I would be shocked if this all comes in on time , I mean timms review is now happening the same time as the new rules were supposed to be going through and anything he trys to get through that is suspect will have pushback .... Long way to go yet

  • Santosha12
    Santosha12 Online Community Member Posts: 2,479 Championing

    My MP voted For. Andrew Cooper. He'll be getting another letter as soon as im well enough. I'd suspected he would from his last reply to me, sympathetic but clearly on the fence 😬.

  • Catherine21
    Catherine21 Posts: 7,542 Championing

    WeWell mps who was totally against it seem to see it as a win so I suppose just have to have faith 🙏

  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Online Community Member Posts: 2,042 Championing

    It’s Kemi I’m really annoyed at . I don’t know how she personally voted but Tory’s apparently abstained. She actually said she wants more cutbacks for disability so our kids don’t have to pay for it in the future. Like we are some second class citizens no one wants

  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Online Community Member Posts: 2,042 Championing

    I know people who should get pip but feel the same as you yet were told too many claiming plus fraud . The only fraud is from the assessors

  • Catherine21
    Catherine21 Posts: 7,542 Championing
  • Ironside1990
    Ironside1990 Online Community Member Posts: 357 Pioneering

    Kemi voted no on the bill. Knowing her, her vote wouldn't be out of sympathy for disabled people, it's because she feels that they didn't go far enough.

  • MadMilan2019
    MadMilan2019 Online Community Member Posts: 148 Empowering

    secret squirel said he doesnt know how Chemi Badenoch voted re the UC PIP Bill, but that Tory MPs abstained. For the ''parliamentary voting record '' Google it please re the Bill and get back to us.

  • MadMilan2019
    MadMilan2019 Online Community Member Posts: 148 Empowering

    You can report him to Prliament for lying, MPs must be factual and truthful; please put in a complaint, its your right to ''informed choices consent and participation as a citizen voter'', and lies are not allowed.

    See below

    mawempathy1 Jul 2025

    Nigel Farage was just ranting that fraudsters can get on PIP for life after a 10 minute zoom call with their GP. Absolutely clueless on every level.

  • Jamk85
    Jamk85 Online Community Member Posts: 55 Empowering

    What scares me more farage may be in power by 2029 :-(

  • MadMilan2019
    MadMilan2019 Online Community Member Posts: 148 Empowering
    edited July 2

    Catherine says she feels defeated, and no doubt many will feel defeated depressed and anxious. But I contend its not a defeat.

    Its neither success or failure but the courage to continue as Churchill said.

    Also, I am not the only person ion this forum to say, we can reverse this partial defeat; it could have been a lot worse had we not campaigned.

    This is the real test folks, are you prepared for the long march in between general elections, and in them to reverse the changes, and pursue any legal avenues given Starmer's old law firm said i the UC PIP Bill if passed would break human rights.

    I am.

    Just think how many years and tears, even decades the feminists, civil right movement MLK in USA, Mandela and Gandhi never gave up remained determined, optimistic and persistent before winning more human rights to vote, and freedom.

    How courageous in adversity can you be, can we be, I think a lot, after the initial shock, of 'defeat'.

  • mac99
    mac99 Online Community Member Posts: 38 Contributor

    i thought the lcwra was going to rise with inflation after these concessions.you can't believe a word this government says and i'll never vote for them again.this is clearly an attack on the disabled to compensate for they're disasterous budget.they should leave us all alone,amd i mean current claimmants and new claimmants alike.

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