Scope's reply to the governments planned concessions to the green paper.

They are all completely out-of-touch with what is happening in the jobs market, especially in regards to AI. The question people in the AI field are trying to resolve is how we support all the people who will lose their jobs to AI. This lot think they're going to get a million disabled people into jobs, while everything else remains rosey.

The political class are focusing on the wrong problem.

Thank you for your explanation @MW123 - I was just puzzled about the 'pre- commencement requirements' (whatever they were) in a document that had been published today, but that makes sense now.

I agree that the removal of the proposed new PIP 'eligibility' makes it a possibilty that the Bill could now be certified as a money bill. I'm not usually cynical, but the fact that the Gov't had it in writing under the Bill presented yesterday that they expected it to be certified as a money bill, made me wonder if they had already decided to remove Clause 5 about PIP due to the backlash they've had from constituents, disability charities & their own MPs.

Really - even Reeves ?

We don't even know why she was crying

It could have been because she knows that she is going to be signing on soon - or just crocodile tears - because she failed in her job …

Good point below, and do folks think a system of PR voting might moderate the right wing policies in British govt, or not.

The Green Party is more socialist than Labour, I'm voting Green next time, not ever Labour again.

And they're serious about saving the planet.

worried3300:49

There is currently only one party worthy of my vote, the greens. But we have a awful voting system, which is assuring right wing politics thrives.

Wibbles said:

The amount of pain that you are in has never been a descriptor in PIP.

Presumably because they don't trust us to tell the truth - pain is a personally rated thing.

I am in constant pain - from arthritic shoulders, knees and spine - but when I applied for PIP after almost 20 years of DLA - I was surprised that there was no way on the form that I could explain the sheer pain that I suffer, 24/7.

Well I'm not sure if that is true:

• PIP is fopr the extra help you need for disablities;
• - opain is a medical symtom of lots of conditionsm, e.g. MSK;
• - you could put at the end of the PIP form how exactly it debilitates you, and thus make a case for extra help

Also please DO buy a copy of the Disability Rights Handbook, published by Disability Alliance on 1st April every year.

Please Google it, it is a benefits bible and well worth a look.

And re read, it gives you the state of play on PIPETC, will allay fears/ anxiety.

I strongly recommend people purchase it.

There are a lot of people who think this way unfortunately.

This is such an important point. AI has also already taken away jobs that some disabled people might have been able to do from home. I've certainly seen that in my own experience. So AI is hitting from every angle, the government is championing AI, yet apparently ignores the impact on the jobs market.

Different people have complained there is still profound ignorance of disability, and distress diagnose, and how it is real, painful and needing of PIP.

So, we need to keep educating the public, by putting our case in the media, for disability benefits, or not.

You can Google your local newspapers, radio, TV go on social media, and tell your story. BUT please prote4ct your heart, your hurt, your trauma and decide only what you wish to reveal and be clear about what your message is.

Journalists can be insensitive, and aggressive in getting their story.