Scope's reply to the governments planned concessions to the green paper.

Hi Catherine,

I feel like we’ve been stitched up . I dread to think what Timms will come up with and I think the earlier concession where existing claimants were exempt from 4? Points is now gone . It seemed we had protection and may not have come under any new rules but now I think starmers made himself look weak by scrapping the whole pip rules but really he’s just scrapped the concessions made earlier . This way I think they’ll make more money in the future if this makes sense . Before anyone on DLA would be classed as an existing claimant now we don’t know . Not that we can be sure these previous concessions would of stayed but no one knows anything including the government

I'm on CBESA / LCWRA .....

All people seem to care about is pip , we've been completely forgot about even though we will be the ones hot hardest 🤷

As an existing claiment of CBESA and LCWRA , it's actually quite simple ....

We will keep getting reassessed under the WCA until it's abolishment in 2028 / 2029

( Although with the recent pause to this moronic shambles of a bill I definitely can't see it being delivered on time so maybe everything will take longer )

When we will then be transitioned over to the new pip criteria assessment ( whatever that will look like )

We will then have to pass It to basically keep what we get now

I haven't had a reasessment coming up for 6 years in November , last one was November 2019 , I was supposed to have another November 2021 , so nearly 4 years overdue ....

I've always been reassessed for ESA .... I vounterally moved over to UC in mid 2022 and because of my support group status I automatically was put in to the LCWRA group ....

So technically I've never been assessed for lcwra , it's always been with a ESA50 form and not a UC50 form , although everyone migrateing over at the minute will be in that same scenario , also the UC50 is pretty much identical to the ESA50 and covers both your ESA and lcwra ....

Reassessments are supposed to start back up properly in April 2026 .... There's a huge backlog , so I'm hoping I won't be one of the first , I'm hoping I can go till the end of 2026 before getting one then fingers crossed I pass that should take me up till beginning or mid 2029 .... Then I'll go from there and try to pass the new criteria .... I can't be letting these bastards steal my life , life is the greatest gift we can get , no way there stealing it from me ....

UC reviews .... Bank checks and monitoring .... And now all these reforms , what a time to be alive 🤦 ....

I’d like to see more protection for us within the severe criteria and fluctuating conditions included. I understand some people may have long periods of remission but there are some like myself that although my ME is classed as a fluctuating condition I never has a remission not even a good day . I hope fatigue conditions is fought for especially now after Covid . I don’t think fatigue and pain are taken seriously enough.

To be honest with you I'm to scared to apply , even though your right in everything you say , I think alot could change from now till then and I think there maybe some protection for people in my situation of recieving CBESA and LCWRA but no pip , because pip has wrongly dominated all the headlines but alot of people are aware that people in my situation will be hot hard by all this and I think the closer it approaches the more it will get a light shines on it , also for me I'll be honest I don't need extra money from pip , I get by fine with my CBESA and LCWRA for what I need , I'm pretty sure I'll get another reassessment before the new rules come in , so I'll concentrate on passing that and then see when my next reassessment date would fall .... And prepare accordingly .... What I will say is the state the dwp's in at the minute with backlogs alone and on top of that all these new changes aswell , I would be shocked if this all comes in on time , I mean timms review is now happening the same time as the new rules were supposed to be going through and anything he trys to get through that is suspect will have pushback .... Long way to go yet

It’s Kemi I’m really annoyed at . I don’t know how she personally voted but Tory’s apparently abstained. She actually said she wants more cutbacks for disability so our kids don’t have to pay for it in the future. Like we are some second class citizens no one wants

Kemi voted no on the bill. Knowing her, her vote wouldn't be out of sympathy for disabled people, it's because she feels that they didn't go far enough.

You can report him to Prliament for lying, MPs must be factual and truthful; please put in a complaint, its your right to ''informed choices consent and participation as a citizen voter'', and lies are not allowed.

See below

mawempathy1 Jul 2025

Nigel Farage was just ranting that fraudsters can get on PIP for life after a 10 minute zoom call with their GP. Absolutely clueless on every level.

Catherine says she feels defeated, and no doubt many will feel defeated depressed and anxious. But I contend its not a defeat.

Its neither success or failure but the courage to continue as Churchill said.

Also, I am not the only person ion this forum to say, we can reverse this partial defeat; it could have been a lot worse had we not campaigned.

This is the real test folks, are you prepared for the long march in between general elections, and in them to reverse the changes, and pursue any legal avenues given Starmer's old law firm said i the UC PIP Bill if passed would break human rights.

I am.

Just think how many years and tears, even decades the feminists, civil right movement MLK in USA, Mandela and Gandhi never gave up remained determined, optimistic and persistent before winning more human rights to vote, and freedom.

How courageous in adversity can you be, can we be, I think a lot, after the initial shock, of 'defeat'.

INDEED.

Let us keep going, and share this quote, and wonderful cartoon on social media, and write to Starmer loads of us quoting himself, c/o of MPs.

Keep up the pressure, and do not let him rest on hislaurels in 'vivtory'. Starmer is not a robot and will feel this oral and political pressure for disability justice, even if he willnot admit it.

Cheers , yes exactly as I thought .... I definitely think I'll get one more reassessment and that would take me up to the pip new assessment , then we will just have to wait and see what the new criteria looks like and go from there .... I'm pretty sure the WCA won't be scrapped by the first of January 2028 , I'm confident everything will be in a big mess and delays will be almost certain