Paranormal debate

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  • Doglover2
    Doglover2 Community Member Posts: 454 Pioneering

    Yes,I was a paranormal investigator for twenty five years, I've been through a few things, being touched on my head, felt like I was being rushed up on, I did a night at an old cinema and as I sat in the seat I was rocked back in it violently. I've stayed in 250 year old alleged hunted coast guard cottage alone, I've also had premonitions a few times.

    I loved my paranormal nights, I never felt uncomfortable, afraid or worried, the living are far more scary.

  • vikingqueen
    vikingqueen Scope Member Posts: 2,063 Championing

    The jury is out in this house. My brother told me if he died before me he would come back and haunt me! 25 years and I'm still waiting. He was a brilliant mechanic and my dad said he'd have his head under a cloud trying to make it go so no time for scaring little sister😂

    Must admit though there has been a few strange things happen over the years that I couldn't explain and I'd like to think it's someone I know and love watching over me

  • Holly_Scope
    Holly_Scope Posts: 6,351 Online Community Team

    Wow, I've got shivers again! That must have been so unsettling.

  • ChrisR777
    ChrisR777 Community Member Posts: 1,410 Trailblazing

    You had better alert Professor Brian Cox, as he said 'ghosts' can't exist, due to the second law of thermodynamics.

    Can you reveal to us now the means by which 'ghosts' replenish the energy that they would lose to heat? They would after all be made of light, not matter.

  • rubin16
    rubin16 Scope Member Posts: 1,591 Championing

    That doesn't prove they don't exist, in the contrary in fact. Second law of thermodynamics state: Any energy transfer or transformation, some energy is wasted. Which is true and there's no arguing that.

    However numerous paranormal investigations clearly show electrical or electronically powered devices suddenly losing or dropping in power, suggesting that these "Ghosts or Spirits" are infact replenishing their energy supply or gaining energy from these devices.

    So while science can prove some things, some things it can't prove or not yet atleast. Our current understanding of science is limited and as it stands theres still things that can and can't be proven with simple science.

    I'm afraid to say Professor Brain Cox is very wrong in his assumption.

  • ChrisR777
    ChrisR777 Community Member Posts: 1,410 Trailblazing
    edited June 19

    I am out in the dead of night (countryside) with my dog, been doing it for 8 years, we go for miles in the pitch dark, with just my scooter light and head torch to see by.

    If I ever meet a 'ghost' i'm willing to change my mind, but until then, they're just stories to frighten children.

    Now I think about it, i've worked underneath the Tay rail bridge, where there must have been numerous suicides, murders; in fact you may have heard of the Tay Bridge disaster of 1879, where as many as 75 people were killed? Never saw a damned thing except the odd rat.

  • Rosie_Scope
    Rosie_Scope Posts: 8,926 Online Community Team

    I lean towards being skeptical on this sort of thing, but I'm open to the idea of things changing my mind. It's definitely a really interesting subject anyway. Like others, I've had little premonition things about things that then go on to happen but that could just be coincidence. I'm never 100% sure!

    I also find it interesting that a lot of the ghosts people experience seem to be older. You don't often get people talking about seeing ghosts dressed in 1970s Bell Bottoms or 1980s Shell Suits. Has anyone here experienced seeing any more modern ghosts?

  • WelshBlue
    WelshBlue Community Member Posts: 1,423 Championing
    edited June 19

    I'm a believer

    Too many strange things where I live, which is built on an old mansion , which then became an old peoples home. The 7 year old daughter died here in 1887

    Ourselves and neighbours have witnessed sighting and happenings.

    One example about 10 years ago, stood in a neighbours garden and I saw something through the kitchen window … I jumped back and the woman of the house said, did you see that ?

    The husband didn't believe we'd seen anything, so we both wrote down what we saw … an old woman in scullery maid type of clothes. Apron, mob cap and flowing dress

    Other things include a neighbour who's door opened … despite having to push it because of the carpet pile, some nights about midnight there's the smell of toasting bread … loads of phenomena … footsteps on the stairs is a bit disconcerting when you reach across in bed and your wife is there 😚

    My cousin had to have his old house exorcised because of things happening. And nothing nice. It was a totally different vibe after

    Sceptics gonna be sceptical and believers gonna believe … so I won't mention the childs hand print on the bathroom mirror …

  • Rosie_Scope
    Rosie_Scope Posts: 8,926 Online Community Team

    Oof @WelshBlue, that's spooky! I have to say, even though I'm quite skeptical about it in general, I do get drawn in by hearing experiences like that where people have seen the same thing at the same time without talking to each other. I find it so fascinating.

    Does anyone listen to the Danny Robbins Uncanny podcasts?

  • WelshBlue
    WelshBlue Community Member Posts: 1,423 Championing

    @Rosie_Scope … we don't find it spooky any more. And to be honest, ever since my daughter moved out, things happen less … almost like a troubled teen was a conduit. I don't miss the radio blaring by being turned on at 3 am at all 😁

    Sometimes we believers I think, can look for things

    An example when I was 18, out and about on a country lane and a headlight went out, right by a supposed haunted bridge

    Messing around with the wiring, I could feel warm breath on my neck … ignore it, ignore it, you're a big boy …

    Then something touched my neck.

    Turned around … and sort of screamed when I was face to face with a horse

    That night when I was sat on my backside, convinced me that horses actually laugh. Maybe not in the human way but he/ she seemed to be enjoying it too much 🤨

  • rubin16
    rubin16 Scope Member Posts: 1,591 Championing

    "Ghost, Spirits and the Supernatural" have been well documented well over history for as far back as history goes. It is mentioned everywhere, and even seen countless times by millions of people round the world.

    Do you really think everyone is making it up?

    I'm not saying that ghosts are dead people exactly, however there is definitely a supernatural force that happens around the world on a daily occurrence. Whether these are "spirits" Some form of "Memory Relapse of past happenings" or "Interdimensional energies" we are still yet to figure out.

    One thing for certain though is that our current science can't understand or conclude what it is yet or what is truly happening. But something supernatural is definitely happening around the world.

  • ChrisR777
    ChrisR777 Community Member Posts: 1,410 Trailblazing

    But the vast majority have never seen a 'ghost'. I don't believe in any gods, and certainly not in the so-called supernatural ( i still enjoy the stories). Why haven't I seen any of theses things, when I have been in so many dark and lonely places?

    People can believe what they like, but i'm with Doubting Thomas on all this stuff.

  • SwiftFox
    SwiftFox Community Member Posts: 1,412 Championing
    edited June 20

    I don't believe or disbelieve on this subject, it's all down to the individual's experience at the time. You can debunked experiences and you can't debunk some, some will never be explained. I haven't seen any myself, even when we decorated the local co-op funeral place, where we found people with pennies on their eyes. I was in there on my own sometimes and absolutely nothing happened to be honest, but that's not to say something wasn't happening at the time, maybe I just wasn't tuned like they say.

  • WelshBlue
    WelshBlue Community Member Posts: 1,423 Championing
    edited June 20

    Everyone's opinions are valid … you've got to experience something to give it credibility in a subject like this ? Unfortunately there has been a lot of fakery

    I lean more towards 'residual' energy rather than hollywood hauntings … but that said, my cousin's house … that was dense, to the point I'd rather wait until the Monday to get my pay cheque

    On the residual front, I remember a derelict cottage in the woods, just walls essentially and the smell of lavender perfume that would waft up was eerie … no explanations as to why it would happen. Grown men who would stand up for themselves in the pub were too scared to go near it

    Ghosts/ religion .. they give comfort to some, and why not if you believe

    My wife went to see a Physic … and she told her, your boyfriend is accident prone. I tried to dispute that fact when she came home and told me … and stood up right under a cupboard door. I like to think I'm unlucky but too many visits to A&E prove her right

    … On entities, I sold my soul to the Devil. He came back for a refund because it was too damaged …

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  • ChrisR777
    ChrisR777 Community Member Posts: 1,410 Trailblazing
    edited June 20

    Scientists have been working on the principles of thermodynamics since antiquity. The "thoughts" of a few conspiracy theorists on tiktok, it doesn't add up to terribly much, in my humble opinion.

  • SheffieldMan1976
    SheffieldMan1976 Posts: 3,138 Connected

    TikTok is full of people who are, to put it politely, a bit silly IMO.

  • WelshBlue
    WelshBlue Community Member Posts: 1,423 Championing

    But none of us know everything ?

    I like to think I'm a level headed, intelligient, pragmatic type of bloke and I can only recount things I've experienced on this subject. Was I stoned and drunk sometimes … yep … have I experienced the same sorts of things, stone cold sober … yep. Just because someone hasn't experienced or believe, doesn't make those who do wrong ?

    Another example of this house My daughter coughed in her room, I coughed in mine… and within a split second a sound of a cough on the landing. Then my daughter calling out … did you hear that Dad ?

    2 people having an auditory hallucination at the same time seems more far fetched than what happened that night. But it did happen

    As for premonitions … this is hard to fathom … but there's one stretch of an A road near me, I used to bob along at 70/80 mph until I got to a certain part … I had to slow right down to 45/50 because I got uptight for 200 yards of that road. Then back to normal driving after that. Just a really uncomfortable feeling. Hands white from gripping the wheel. No rhyme or reason to feel like that. Exactly the same road surface. Exactly the same edge. To this day people laugh at me because of it. But for 40 years it's been the same … I can't explain it … and I don't think I want to know why

    (now I do 65 everywhere but still slow down there)

    … if that makes me crazy sounding so be it🤨😁