pip tribunal won then bad news

cristobal

@rainbow58 - I'm not sure whether you count me as critical or supportive, but I'll respond one last time.

I don't doubt you when you say that you need an oven to cook on. The problem is that the PIP category for 'preparing food' it only considers preparing food above waist height. Whether you can bend down to use an oven is not considered, and the CAB should know this.

If they have advised you that you should score points for this then they are wrong.

Matilda

So, are you appealing @rainbow58?

I got 4 points in the food prep descriptor as more than 50% of the time I cannot peel and chop veg even using aids.
Tribunal gave me the two extra points.  Assessor only gave me 2 points.  She decided I could prepare veg using aids.  It was too complex for her to understand (she was a paramedic) that more than 50% of time I could not prepare veg even using aids.

Most assessors are too dim to take into account the reliability criteria - safely, repeatedly, in a reasonable time.  You have to go to appeal to find interviewers with brains who understand the descriptors criteria.

pcoventry

The DA in my F2F was a nurse and she came to my house - despite telling her that I can't go anywhere without someone else - especially when driving because I freak out if I go somewhere I don't know - she said I had no MH issues and said I could plan a route unaided - I literally have to program 3 sat navs, google map the **** out of where I am going AND have someone with me.

The DWP said ' okay so you only need that 1 thing looking at - shouldn't take long" and now I wait - I was only awarded Standard mobility 2 days ago after 15 weeks waiting!

I agree, they don't know **** and the problem is the case managers who are totally non medical just go on what the report says! I knew I had Enchanced living and Standard Motab as soon as I got the report (even tough I called and they added notes on) 

drewdundee

My only advice is if you have the mental capacity to fill out your pip form honestly, truthfully and truly have a disability you will be successful. Maybe not after the assessment or the MR but at tribunal you will be. If you have gone through all of that and still are not successful perhaps pip is not the right welfare program for you.

shichon

rainbow58 said:

ageuk and cab went thrun them and scored points on what i told them-the truth about m y disabilities.
I cant use my oven because i cant use it safely or reliably.I can prepare a meal using a microwave but not an oven-THAT SCORES POINTS.! and I know i wont score for both but in cant do both so one would count -they should take the highest score.the point about nail cutting is that i cannot bend down to do it-and need assistance to do so-relates to not being able to reach lower body to wash.
sound like your being picky .and citical 

poppy123456

shichon said:

rainbow58 said:

ageuk and cab went thrun them and scored points on what i told them-the truth about m y disabilities.
I cant use my oven because i cant use it safely or reliably.I can prepare a meal using a microwave but not an oven-THAT SCORES POINTS.! and I know i wont score for both but in cant do both so one would count -they should take the highest score.the point about nail cutting is that i cannot bend down to do it-and need assistance to do so-relates to not being able to reach lower body to wash.
sound like your being picky .and citical 

You've posted on a thread that's more than 3 years old. You can correct, using an oven isn't considered in any of the PIP descriptors.

shichon

@poppy123456 I didn't mean to comment on anything I was reading the thread 

L_Volunteer

I hear you @shichon. I think @poppy123456 just meant the thread was posted in 2019 and previously to you the most recent comment was in 2019.

Therefore, if you react to this thread in any way - such as the text box that came up quoting @rainbow58 you may not receive a response 

Dipsydee

I said I could walk for 2 minutes but am in pain as soon as I stand up. I get breathless  I'm slow and I get slower and more pain as I go. Assessor said I could walk 50 metres. My response in M.R was that the distance a able bodied person could walk in 2 minutes is considerably further than what I can cover in 2 minutes. Having to go tribunal. 

Hannah_Alumni

oh @Dipsydee I'm so sorry you are having to go to tribunal. Keeping everything crossed for you!

corblimey

I had to go through hell to get PIP and multiple tribunals, that was years ago 2012, it appears that nothing has changed, doesn't matter what you tell them, the assessors, they say something else, someone should start a class action lawsuit against them