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PiP shutting people down

GamerGirl37

Apparently the people who make the decisions get paid $50 for turning patients down first time..... what the hell for those with no job no means of getting help and trying everything in their power to get a job they can handle....

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wilko

@GameGirl37, hello and welcome, that's a false statement, and PIP is no a benefit for the unemployed but for those who have a health problem, disability and PIP when awarded to an able-bodied person who meets the criteria for claiming PIP can still claim PIP and work full time. The claiment may have a mobility issue, problem and unable to walk far but through claiming PIP is able to attend work earn a living and pay his or hers taxes and NI.

GamerGirl37

Ano , I just hate how they treat people who really need the help

poppy123456

No one receives any extra money for claimants being refused PIP. It's the DWP decision makers that make the decisions.

Lots of people successfully claim PIP without any problems at al but we rarely hear the good stories.

GamerGirl37

I can’t I can’t understand why that is though all people classed as disabled should receive PIP with no questions asked

GamerGirl37

That’s stupid

poppy123456

GamerGirl37 said:

That’s stupid

Why is it stupid? You can't expect to be awarded a disability benefit just for a disability because not everyone with a disability needs help and support. If you don't meet the criteria then you won't score the points for an award.

GamerGirl37

I’m not saying that but when people struggle with making food unsupervised and not being able to manage bills or getting lost without someone there to guide them.... they should be allowed it , I’ve just turned 27 and I still live with my parents and fiancée I had to leave my previous job because my diagnosis was too late

WhileIBreathIHope

poppy123456 said:

No one receives any extra money for claimants being refused PIP. It's the DWP decision makers that make the decisions.

Lots of people successfully claim PIP without any problems at al but we rarely hear the good stories.

Really so two Dodgy companies for profit know better than NHS!

Lima banned in US states but used here

UN report and in the news.

What a bubble you must live in!

poppy123456

WhileIBreathIHope said:

poppy123456 said:

No one receives any extra money for claimants being refused PIP. It's the DWP decision makers that make the decisions.

Lots of people successfully claim PIP without any problems at al but we rarely hear the good stories.

Really so two Dodgy companies for profit know better than NHS!
Lima banned in US states but used here
UN report and in the news.
What a bubble you must live in!

I do not live in any sort of bubble but i'll thank you for your extremely generous well thought out comment.

As a community champion here on scope i think i know the criteria for claiming PIP and ESA but thanks again.

Enjoy the rest of your night!

WhileIBreathIHope

poppy123456 said:

WhileIBreathIHope said:

poppy123456 said:

No one receives any extra money for claimants being refused PIP. It's the DWP decision makers that make the decisions.

Lots of people successfully claim PIP without any problems at al but we rarely hear the good stories.

Really so two Dodgy companies for profit know better than NHS!
Lima banned in US states but used here
UN report and in the news.
What a bubble you must live in!

I do not live in any sort of bubble but i'll thank you for your extremely generous well thought out comment.

As a community champion here on scope i think i know the criteria for claiming PIP and ESA but thanks again.

Enjoy the rest of your night!

Sweetly I got screwed by Direct Payments and DWP, left with nothing and housebound- even the MP couldn’t unravel the mess completely. So while you wear your shiny community champion badge with honour- kindly and respectfully realise you don’t know it all/ can’t fix it all

Ami2301

Please be mindful and respective towards one another here on the community. We want the community to be a safe and supportive place for every member.

WhileIBreathIHope

Cute

cristobal

poppy123456 said:

GamerGirl37 said:

That’s stupid

Why is it stupid? You can't expect to be awarded a disability benefit just for a disability because not everyone with a disability needs help and support. If you don't meet the criteria then you won't score the points for an award.

I tend to agree - my daughter has epilepsy but fortunately it has minimal impact so she doesn't qualify for benefit.

The budget isn't limitless - If she got PIP it might mean that a more deserving case didn't.

GamerGirl37

yes if you don’t meet the criteria however when you have a diagnosis that proves you cannot do certain things due to your disability , you should be able to get PIP with no hassle , on the final decision I had they scored me nothing for both life skills and mobility - mobility is fair enough but life skills is a load of bull / and my diagnose says that and on my report when I had my meeting to discuss it she wrote it all down - but to receive a letter from the DWP saying I’m able to do all the things and their is no evidence of any learning impairment , sensory issues and they used the companion thing against me saying I seemed calm and not struggling to speak - only cause I had my mother there which they said was allowed .....

cristobal

"yes if you don’t meet the criteria however when you have a diagnosis that proves you cannot do certain things due to your disability , you should be able to get PIP with no hassle"

@gamergirl37 - does a diagnosis prove that you cannot do certain things? I don't believe that it does, which is why PIP is about functionality not diagnosis (and it's far from perfect I agree)

Would you say that my daughter qualifies? She has been diagnosed with epilepsy but it has almost no effect. She works full time, and is allowed by DVLA to drive...

GamerGirl37

Yes in a way it does , as it states in my diagnosis I will not be able to do ect , and they have just walked all over the evidence so far , I’m still waiting to hear from my case worker the second time

braca

@GamerGirl37 Keep up the fight and as you say evidence you have shows that it can and affects yourself coping with daily living activities.

HCP probably did not look at your evidence thoroughly and would have filled in their report to suit, I do not believe they are paid a bonus but are tasked with getting through X amount of assessments per day and are very well paid for doing so, I think they are more concerned more about their report being picked up for audit and not being sent to DWP straight away.

As for Decision Makers I was told by two Welfare Rights officers that they only look at the Dots for scoring points and don't even bother reading full report from Assessment providers...

GamerGirl37

I didn’t know that wow ....

dolfrog

braca said:

@GamerGirl37 Keep up the fight and as you say evidence you have shows that it can and affects yourself coping with daily living activities.

HCP probably did not look at your evidence thoroughly and would have filled in their report to suit, I do not believe they are paid a bonus but are tasked with getting through X amount of assessments per day and are very well paid for doing so, I think they are more concerned more about their report being picked up for audit and not being sent to DWP straight away.

As for Decision Makers I was told by two Welfare Rights officers that they only look at the Dots for scoring points and don't even bother reading full report from Assessment providers...

Basically neither the Assessor nor the Decision Makers are adequately medically trained or qualified to do their jobs, such is the corrupt nature of this DWP system.

Misscleo

Thank you to ALL who posted .....interesting

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