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PiP shutting people down

GamerGirl37
GamerGirl37 Member Posts: 97 Pioneering
Apparently the people who make the decisions get paid $50 for turning patients down first time..... what the hell for those with no job no means of getting help and trying everything in their power to get a job they can handle.... 
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  • wilko
    wilko Member Posts: 2,457 Disability Gamechanger
    @GameGirl37, hello and welcome, that's a false statement, and PIP is no a benefit for the unemployed but for those who have a health problem, disability and PIP when awarded to an able-bodied person who meets the criteria for claiming PIP can  still claim PIP and work full time. The claiment may have a mobility issue, problem and unable to walk far but through claiming PIP is able to attend work earn a living and pay his or hers taxes and NI. 
  • GamerGirl37
    GamerGirl37 Member Posts: 97 Pioneering
    Ano , I just hate how they treat people who really need the help 
  • poppy123456
    poppy123456 Member Posts: 31,451 Disability Gamechanger
    No one receives any extra money for claimants being refused PIP. It's the DWP decision makers that make the decisions.

    Lots of people successfully claim PIP without any problems at al but we rarely hear the good stories.
  • GamerGirl37
    GamerGirl37 Member Posts: 97 Pioneering
    I can’t I can’t understand why that is though all people classed as disabled should receive PIP with no questions asked 
  • GamerGirl37
    GamerGirl37 Member Posts: 97 Pioneering
    That’s stupid 
  • poppy123456
    poppy123456 Member Posts: 31,451 Disability Gamechanger
    That’s stupid 
    Why is it stupid? You can't expect to be awarded a disability benefit just for a disability because not everyone with a disability needs help and support. If you don't meet the criteria then you won't score the points for an award.
  • GamerGirl37
    GamerGirl37 Member Posts: 97 Pioneering
    I’m not saying that but when people struggle with making food unsupervised and not being able to manage bills or getting lost without someone there to guide them.... they should be allowed it , I’ve just turned 27 and I still live with my parents and fiancée I had to leave my previous job because my diagnosis was too late 
  • WhileIBreathIHope
    WhileIBreathIHope Posts: 216 Connected
    No one receives any extra money for claimants being refused PIP. It's the DWP decision makers that make the decisions.

    Lots of people successfully claim PIP without any problems at al but we rarely hear the good stories.
    Really so two Dodgy companies for profit know better than NHS! 
    Lima banned in US states but used here
    UN report and in the news. 
    What a bubble you must live in!
  • WhileIBreathIHope
    WhileIBreathIHope Posts: 216 Connected
    No one receives any extra money for claimants being refused PIP. It's the DWP decision makers that make the decisions.

    Lots of people successfully claim PIP without any problems at al but we rarely hear the good stories.
    Really so two Dodgy companies for profit know better than NHS! 
    Lima banned in US states but used here
    UN report and in the news. 
    What a bubble you must live in!
    I do not live in any sort of bubble but i'll thank you for your extremely generous well thought out comment.

    As a community champion here on scope i think i know the criteria for claiming PIP and ESA but thanks again.

    Enjoy the rest of your night!


    Sweetly I got screwed by Direct Payments and DWP, left with nothing and housebound- even the MP couldn’t unravel the mess completely. So while you wear your shiny community champion badge with honour- kindly and respectfully realise you don’t know it all/ can’t fix it all 
  • WhileIBreathIHope
    WhileIBreathIHope Posts: 216 Connected
    edited October 2019
  • cristobal
    cristobal Member Posts: 984 Disability Gamechanger
    edited October 2019
    That’s stupid 
    Why is it stupid? You can't expect to be awarded a disability benefit just for a disability because not everyone with a disability needs help and support. If you don't meet the criteria then you won't score the points for an award.
    I tend to agree - my daughter has epilepsy but fortunately it has minimal impact so she doesn't qualify for benefit.

    The budget isn't limitless - If she got PIP it might mean that a more deserving case didn't.
  • GamerGirl37
    GamerGirl37 Member Posts: 97 Pioneering
    yes if you don’t meet the criteria however when you have a diagnosis that proves you cannot do certain things due to your disability , you should be able to get PIP with no hassle , on the final decision I had they scored me nothing for both life skills and mobility - mobility is fair enough but life skills is a load of bull / and my diagnose says that and on my report when I had my meeting to discuss it she wrote it all down - but to receive a letter from the DWP saying I’m able to do all the things and their is no evidence of any learning impairment , sensory issues and they used the companion thing against me saying I seemed calm and not struggling to speak - only cause I had my mother there which they said was allowed ..... 
  • cristobal
    cristobal Member Posts: 984 Disability Gamechanger
    "yes if you don’t meet the criteria however when you have a diagnosis that proves you cannot do certain things due to your disability , you should be able to get PIP with no hassle"

    @gamergirl37 - does a diagnosis prove that you cannot do certain things? I don't believe that it does, which is why PIP is about functionality not diagnosis (and it's far from perfect I agree)

    Would you say that my daughter qualifies? She has been diagnosed with epilepsy but it has almost no effect. She works full time, and is allowed by DVLA to drive...
  • GamerGirl37
    GamerGirl37 Member Posts: 97 Pioneering
    Yes in a way it does , as it states in my diagnosis I will not be able to do ect , and they have just walked all over the evidence so far , I’m still waiting to hear from my case worker the second time 
  • GamerGirl37
    GamerGirl37 Member Posts: 97 Pioneering
    I didn’t know that wow ....
  • Misscleo
    Misscleo Member Posts: 647 Pioneering
    Thank you to ALL who posted .....interesting 

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