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PiP shutting people down
GamerGirl37
Member Posts: 94 Pioneering
Apparently the people who make the decisions get paid $50 for turning patients down first time..... what the hell for those with no job no means of getting help and trying everything in their power to get a job they can handle....
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The budget isn't limitless - If she got PIP it might mean that a more deserving case didn't.
@gamergirl37 - does a diagnosis prove that you cannot do certain things? I don't believe that it does, which is why PIP is about functionality not diagnosis (and it's far from perfect I agree)
Would you say that my daughter qualifies? She has been diagnosed with epilepsy but it has almost no effect. She works full time, and is allowed by DVLA to drive...
HCP probably did not look at your evidence thoroughly and would have filled in their report to suit, I do not believe they are paid a bonus but are tasked with getting through X amount of assessments per day and are very well paid for doing so, I think they are more concerned more about their report being picked up for audit and not being sent to DWP straight away.
As for Decision Makers I was told by two Welfare Rights officers that they only look at the Dots for scoring points and don't even bother reading full report from Assessment providers...
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is the current DWP practices will one day be found to be illegal, while austerity will be the excuse to normalise criminal behaviour.
So if the system sets up its own so called descriptors , a technicial term not many fully understand, Scope should be helping to explain these defintitions in lay mans terms dot that those who have a disability are better able to understand and explain the problems they may face on a day to day basis.
Some just use the term discriptors and avoid discussing and explaining the real issues, and how thye should be best describe to help those of us who have varying types of disability get the support we need.
What the DWP need to know is whether you can carry out different 'tasks', whether you need aids, or help/supervision or whether you can't do them at all.
Use your own words to describe what you can/ can't do; adding some examples is a good idea.
For example, for PIP, Activity 4 is:-
This activity considers a claimant’s ability to wash and bathe.
‘Washing’ means cleaning ones whole body, including removing dirt and sweat.
‘Bathing’ means getting into and out of both an unadapted bath and an unadapted shower.
So, if you can't get in/out of the bath AND shower and wash yourself explain why, and how you manage.
Do this for each of the activities that you have difficulty with ...
Hope this helps ...
If it doesn't help message me ...due to my communication disability, which I share with all of my family, 3 sons and my wife, we have others explain our disabilities and how it affects our daily lives. We have had to have help from the CAB, to explain our issues and the DWP is purely in denial and the assessors report and the manipulating Decision makers report are pure disability discrimination. This happening in the transfer from DLA to PIP. If the system was there to help all disabled people then individual should either be registered for DLA or PIP, but they have changed to system to best suite the needs of those who run the system, and not the needs of the disabled.
"Scope should be helping to explain these defintitions in lay mans terms dot that those who have a disability are better able to understand and explain the problems they may face on a day to day basis."
I'm still happy to help - if you think that I can, as you mention that you get help from the CAB...
2 - Minor ailments can have massive functional consequences and thus qualify a person for PIP. The idea that people with minor ailments cannot get PIP is incorrect and needs to be called out as such before people wrongly get put off claiming. .
I've never been told anything like that by any of the WFO's I've had over the past year (I've had 3 so far).