If they roll it out in December, would you take the Covid-19 Vaccine?

PatchG

No

@lisathomas50
Great to hear the op seems to have gone well, congrats ?

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Lisatho11987777

No

Thank you patch6 wales has just been put intoocjdown from tonight  what a nightmare  merry  Xmas  we can still enjoy the pandemic will come to an end get your surf board out and ride the waves we can do this 

m_burrell82

Yes

lisathomas50  Also London in Tier 4. I'm unlikely to have my usual Christmas. I usually feel that my life is just one run of lonliness, without anyone giving any real help to solve that. With not likely to even have a Christmas, will simply be unbearable!

Geoark

Yes

Yes I will have it when it is offered to me.

I would like to thank @soconfused for the best laughs over this issue. Here is my favourite line:

The whole world needs to wake up and smell what Boris and his (getting rich doing it) cronies are shovelling.

To find someone who actually believes that this bunch of incompetent idiots are capable of conceiving and implementing such a world wide scam is just so funny.

So parts of England went into tier 3 lockdown because of a spike in the rise of Covid. The rise being mainly among those between 11 and 18, but the schools and colleges remained open. Today they cried a new Tier 4 and still they plan to have the schools and education open.

Retirement ages have been going up, yet our education system has been under assault for the last decade at least. So suddenly there is a call for education centres in every town. We already have them, they are called colleges, those institutions which used to help retrain adults into jobs that needed people and provided various other forms of education until the funding for them was pulled away.

Personally I'm not surprised that some Tory MPs are unhappy with the recent grants given by UNICEF. It represents external validation of what most of us know what has been going on with the Conservatives in the last decade, or usually when they are in power.

Boris is hardly and intellectual giant, so to believe this is one huge world wide scam by him and his cronies is just laughable.

Perhaps smell some of the stuff you are trying to shovel on us? 

[Deleted User]

Yes

Geoark said:

Yes I will have it when it is offered to me.

I would like to thank @soconfused for the best laughs over this issue. Here is my favourite line:

The whole world needs to wake up and smell what Boris and his (getting rich doing it) cronies are shovelling.

To find someone who actually believes that this bunch of incompetent idiots are capable of conceiving and implementing such a world wide scam is just so funny.

So parts of England went into tier 3 lockdown because of a spike in the rise of Covid. The rise being mainly among those between 11 and 18, but the schools and colleges remained open. Today they cried a new Tier 4 and still they plan to have the schools and education open.

Retirement ages have been going up, yet our education system has been under assault for the last decade at least. So suddenly there is a call for education centres in every town. We already have them, they are called colleges, those institutions which used to help retrain adults into jobs that needed people and provided various other forms of education until the funding for them was pulled away.

Personally I'm not surprised that some Tory MPs are unhappy with the recent grants given by UNICEF. It represents external validation of what most of us know what has been going on with the Conservatives in the last decade, or usually when they are in power.

Boris is hardly and intellectual giant, so to believe this is one huge world wide scam by him and his cronies is just laughable.

Perhaps smell some of the stuff you are trying to shovel on us? 

I call him BoJo the Clown!

PatchG

No

It doesn't have to be unbearable ?
My Niece died just before xmas day many years ago now. Ever since, her dad (my brother) and family have had a delayed xmas every year - to celebrate real xmas day without her is too painful as she loved xmas so much.

This year is not normal for anyone who would otherwise celebrate the day, everyone is in the same boat, I think a lot will choose a different day when it's safer ?

Lisatho11987777

No

Mburrrel 82 you csn always talk  to someone on here I am here Xmas can be lonely  for anyone but its worse now because  of the corona virus  Xmas won't be the same this year are you ok 

Lisatho11987777

No

My son died  on 31st December 22 years ago  so I don't like new year  but it does taint Xmas but I still try  I know its different this year  and you say its Linley and unbearable but there is always someone here to speak to you  I am used to haveing people round me Xmas but not this year I hope your ok 

m_burrell82

Yes

Its good talking here to an extent and like I talk to so many folk out there, in different countries on places like hangouts and stuff. Sites like that I can say so much more about myself. Whether I can actually get to meet any of those folk, from places like The States and Ghana, remains to be seen though.

Lisatho11987777

No

You never know anything is possible if you want it enough there are akways ways to dort it out glad your ok though we can get you through Xmas  iwe are all in same boat do ride the waves we will get through it x

Geoark

Yes

@m_burrell82 I have made some good friends in the States and have been fortunate to meet some of them. The worst experience I have had in these meetings was taking a couple of ladies, with the family, to a pub in the middle of a tourist area in London and ordering coffee with cream. The coffee was okay, but seriously whipped cream from a can?? 

Fortunately this year our plans won't be spoilt. We spend it together as a family, if you can count three different tv's being on in three different rooms 'being together' debatable. We do spend some time together though, eating, a couple of games, opening presents. It suits us as there is very little expectations of each other and we don't have to try and meet the expectations of others.

While I can certainly understand that this is a time people who are alone can feel very lonely, but being around toxic partners, parents or even children can be just as lonely with a large dose of abuse thrown in. Throw in the type of year we have had, and I have seen a report on tv saying that drinking alcohol has gone up significantly I just hope people have the courage to ask for help if they need it. That said, it definitely does not diminish the issues faced by single people who are on their own this Christmas, and especially for those who had hoped to spend a few days with family or friends but cannot do so now.

All I can suggest is try to reach out if you are feeling particularly lonely, be it online, calling someone just to wish them a merry Christmas, perhaps arrange a time to call in advance so you don't catch them while they are eating, or have something else planned. I know one of my biggest concerns this year has been what will happen to our elderly residents who are often invited to parties at the local hospital, or charity.  Sadly I have not had the time or energy this year to be proactive, but fortunately do know that some of the other residents have already made plans to ensure they are at least contacted by someone, with a few surprises for them on the day.

Lisatho11987777

No

Thats good glad you have someone at Xmas  to be fair I am  ok about Xmas  if I stay safe hopefuly I  will have Xmas  next year  my kids will facetious me on my phone people will text me my partner will come and see me I have presents and I have a Xmas dinner I am happy I am alive so I can't ask for anything more  have a lovely Xmas  

Grinchy

Yes

we will be having it, glad to see more people are to, this is  an interesting thread, thanks to those who have taken part

Lisatho11987777

No

We will all have  mad day but different than what we are used to and some people are on their own every year  some work but however we are haveing Xmas hope you will all feel some joy amongst everything going on x