Supervision descriptor

RebeccaBates

Hi I just wondered about the awareness of danger/hazards descriptor and the fact that it says injury to self or others but doesn’t mention someone else causing you injury such as physical/sexual and or financial abuse. What they take this into account or not as the descriptor doesn’t specify it? 

janer1967

Hi there 

The only thing I would say is pip is about how you are on a daily basis for the majority of the time 

The incidents you mention would not happen on a daily basis 

It is about you being aware of how your condition could put you in danger or others eg leaving cooker rings on.

RebeccaBates

I meant the work capability assessment and not pip that’s why I put this comment in the Universal credit section 

RebeccaBates

No I’m not I’m talking about UC work capability assessment benefit the descriptor which says reduced awareness of everyday hazards/danger 

janer1967

Sorry I didnt see that bit would still be the same it is unlikely in a work environment you would come across these risks 

Not impossible but tbh it's not something I have ever come across anybody asking about for WCA 

Hope other members can give their advice too 

janer1967

It's not an everyday occurrence in my view 

RebeccaBates

It’s in the community as I have a reduced awareness of my own vulnerability so I’m at risk of the 3 types of abuse Whilst I’m in the community 

RebeccaBates

The thing is when I’m out in the community I need someone there to keep me safe from abuse and I go out everyday 

janer1967

You are not subject to abuse every day 

I have given my opinion of course it is up to you what you put down if you feel it is valid then put it down   just saying never heard anyone else ask this 

Maybe get some advice from welfare rights 

Good luck with your assessment 

RebeccaBates

Why has this got little or no bearing on WCA as one descriptor is solely on needing someone with you to stay safe. Also why are you concerned and baffled at why I’m at risk of abuse for in the community as I’m unaware of my own vulnerability so I need someone with me to stop the risk of that happening to me. 

RebeccaBates

Oh ok I thought that requiring supervision most of the time got you in the support group. So what qualifies for this descriptor and it sort of does as I can’t be in the community at all on my own and some jobs require community work such as a factory and support worker. 

janer1967

Needing support to go out is relevant but not for the reasons you are saying 

Things like without support you could get lost , have panic attacks,  cant get on transport , cant cross the road , , cant interact, cant be in large groups and so on 

Tori_Scope

Just to clarify @RebeccaBates: are you at risk of abuse from anyone specific, or is this a more general concern?

RebeccaBates

I thought the risk of being abused would be good enough as there is a risk that every time I go out I could get attacked so basically your saying they don’t care about the serious dangers that could cause serious injury 

RebeccaBates

It’s a more general concern 

janer1967

I really think you need to get help filling in the form as mentioned before this is about your fitness to work not about the risk of abuse . You need to understand what the descriptors are looking at yo get the best chance of an award 

I'm sorry but I dont think I can explain  it any other way so will hope other members can 

I will leave it there and wish you luck 

RebeccaBates

Oh ok thank you well they should be. What exactly is included then as Also I’m unable to be left in the house alone at all as I’m unable to keep myself safe as I don’t understand the dangers in the house would that put me in the support group 

RebeccaBates

Ok thank you please could someone delete my post now as I don’t want it in the discussions 

RebeccaBates

Oh ok what dangers are included in this descriptor as for example I am unable to be left in the flat alone as I’m unable to maintain own safety and I have a reduced awareness of danger in the house so would that be enough to put me in the support group 

RebeccaBates

also what hazards and dangers count for in the community. I know that I have some but I want more to know what to put 

RebeccaBates

I did and I’m not aware of the hazards in the house or aware of stranger danger in the community so would that be enough to put me in the support group?