Does anyone have any experience with Shoulder Injury Relating to Vaccine Administration (SIRVA)?

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  • IRMAGEDDON17
    IRMAGEDDON17 Online Community Member Posts: 2 Listener
    I don't know if anyone else has mentioned this already but the best tip I was given by a consultant at a minor injuries unit is ice packs. He said it definitely speeds up the healing process- 20 mins, 3 times a day.  Its worth persevering with, not least because it does seem to numb the pain for a while.
    If you accidently have a bad moment and the pain has shot down your arm and into your jaw, just run to the freezer and put it on the jab area. It works quicker than painkillers.
    I use one of those plastic ice blocks you put in a picnic cool box with an old tea towel to cover if its too cold to begin. I just sit myself down in front of the tv and relax with it. 
    Cursing helps too.



  • Cazza03
    Cazza03 Online Community Member Posts: 5 Listener
    Hi all, please join this newly set up facebook page - Vaccine administration injury SIRVA support UK
    https://www.facebook.com/groups/786622478671052/

    I had my Covid Vaccine on Weds 9th June, my second. The jab was administered around 5pm, I went home all was good, no side effects, went to bed, woke up next day still feeling ok. I had taken the next day, Thursday and Friday off of work just in case I reacted and was just relaxing in the garden at home. Later that day-around midday, my shoulder started to throb, and with some shooting pains down my upper arm, thought nothing of it as just thought it was a side effect of the vaccine but throughout the rest of the afternoon and into the evening, the throbbing turned into excruciating pain, and by bedtime I could lift my arm to even undress. This was not the usual feeling that you sometimes get after a vaccine - like a slightly pained dead arm, this was excruciating, made you cry pain, and lost shoulder /upper arm mobility. I went to bed in my clothes. I couldn't take off, and didn't sleep very much, next morning - Friday I told my husband I couldn't cope with the pain, I cried, and asked him to take me to our local hospital's urgent care department. He was so shocked, and knew it must be bad as he knows I'm not one for going to hosp or gp. He dropped me off and I explained to the Triage and Doctor the circumstances of how and when this problem began, i.e. after having the vaccine. I was examined, made to move my arm and shoulder making me cry from the pain and then when I suggested it was the injection that had caused it, I was looked at like I was mad! I was told it's not likely to be the vaccine that has caused it, take codeine for 5 days, and if no better then to phone my GP. I was upset, frustrated, dumfounded, and felt like the visit was a complete waste of time. I contacted my manager, explained the issue so far, he was in disbelief (not sure if he believed me either) but was great, and said don't stress and just keep him updated. Despite my pain I still tried to get in my car to see if I could drive - I could not stretch my arm to the steering wheel or attempt to move arm to gear stick for the pain. I admitted defeat, spent the whole weekend in agony but managed to get used to getting my top off one armed, and to have a one armed shower and just got through it in pain.

    Monday AM I finally got through to GP Surgery, I explained my situation in full including my Urgent Care visit. The triage staff member told me there's no way having a vaccine could do that to you, but they told me to hold and they would find a GP. I finally got a call back about 6pm, and not from an actual doctor, the actual doctor just got an office / reception person to call me to tell me a vaccine injection could not have done this to me, I must have done it to myself, maybe in my sleep (despite me saying the pain started mid day)! I argued how they could deem I'd done it to myself from just a phone call and no face to face examination? I was told to phone back in a couple of days if not better, in the meantime I should fill in a self cert sick form which would cover me for 7 days of work, and after that my GP would be more than willing to issue a Fitness note? Disgusting, I felt demoralised, and deflated, why would no one listen?

    I struggled through and on Tues through pure boredom scoured the wonderful world of google and came across sites mentioning SIRVA and knew straight away, this is it, this is me! I was also very saddened to discover a blog (this one) where I read stories of others like me - suffering at the hands of negligence, and where medical professionals were also not believing that their problems were caused by vaccine administration.

    In desperation yesterday just to try and get some belief and empathy, my mum picked me up and took me to the hospital in the next county, where finally they listened, read the info on SIRVA that I took with me, they did stretch my arm, make me scream and cry in pain, but acknowledged it must have been caused by the Covid Jab administered.....I am now currently awaiting physio.

    People need to be made accountable for this problem - I currently can't drive, do my job, I can't reach up or out with my arm or do any movement if it involves using the upper arm and shoulder, I can't even lift my bad arm to put deodorant on !!! I'm hoping for a quick recovery, but from what I've read so far I just don't know and time will tell I guess. Being unable to drive, work, and restricted in what I can do including feeding myself properly- I'm already going out of my mind!

    I encourage anyone else suffering this to come forward and report their stories, and more importantly-fight for treatment, and report it to the Yellow Card Website, and my thoughts and sympathies with you all.
  • LancsRose
    LancsRose Online Community Member Posts: 7 Listener
    Quick update. I have now been on Neurontin for 2 weeks for nerve pain as the person giving the Covid injection, according to my GP, damaged the nerve at the top of my right arm. During this time the pain has not subsided, infact, I would say if anything it has got worse. Not reported to the Yellow card system yet but would like to make a complaint to my GP surgery and speak to my MP about this. This pain is constant, it is disabling and I am no longer able to do the things I was able to do before with my left arm/shoulder without discomfort and pain. Will be speaking to my GP again as he told me to go back to him after 2 weeks if the Neurontin did not ease my suffering... Will keep you guys updated. Take care and kindest regards x
  • Janren
    Janren Online Community Member Posts: 0 Listener
    edited June 2021
    Hi, everyone. I saw a post regarding someone having a shoulder injury since receiving the covid 19 jab. I also have the same problem. I had the jab 2months ago, was perfectly fine beforehand but ever since the jab my shoulder is in constant pain when I move. 
  • Tori_Scope
    Tori_Scope Scope Posts: 12,451 Championing
    Welcome to the community @Janren :) Thanks for joining. I've moved your post over to this thread, as it seemed to be the thread you were referring to. 

    I'm sorry to hear that your shoulder is in pain. As you can see from other comments in the thread, SIRVA is rare and can be caused by any vaccine that is administered incorrectly, not just the coronavirus vaccines.

    Have you been to visit your GP to find out the cause of your pain? 
  • Cazza03
    Cazza03 Online Community Member Posts: 5 Listener
    AmyS1992 said:

     I just wondered if anyone had any knowledge/experience of this? Thank you. 

    Hi, sorry you are going through this, me too. 
    please join this newly set up facebook page - Vaccine administration injury SIRVA support UK
    https://www.facebook.com/groups/786622478671052/

  • Cazza03
    Cazza03 Online Community Member Posts: 5 Listener
    Janren said:
    Hi, everyone. I saw a post regarding someone having a shoulder injury since receiving the covid 19 jab. I also have the same problem. I had the jab 2months ago, was perfectly fine beforehand but ever since the jab my shoulder is in constant pain when I move. 
    Hi, sorry you are going through this, me too. 
    please join this newly set up facebook page - Vaccine administration injury SIRVA support UK
    https://www.facebook.com/groups/786622478671052/
  • Lynda62
    Lynda62 Online Community Member Posts: 2 Listener
    Hi, I had my first vaccine over 12 weeks ago and I have had pain in the top of my arm ever since. My doc is referring me for physio but still have another 3 weeks to wait just for a telephone appointment. The pain is getting gradually worse and my arm is feeling weak to the point I have to apply my hand break using both arms. I’m worried about getting my 2nd vaccine in case it makes things worse or if I get it in the other arm the same thing happens. Sorry so many others are suffering with the same issue. 
  • Cher_Alumni
    Cher_Alumni Scope alumni Posts: 5,714 Championing
    Hi @Lynda62 and a warm welcome to our community.

    I'm sorry you've experienced similar pain to the others on this thread.  Maybe the exercises suggested by @chiarieds above will help while your physiotherapy referral is being processed.

    I understand your apprehension in having another vaccine (of any kind) following this experience, however just to emphasise your pain isn't a direct result of the covid-19 vaccine but, as suggested, improper administration.. and unfortunately plain bad luck  :(

    To quote @Adrian_Scope
    Shoulder injury related to vaccine administration (SIRVA) is a rare complication which is the result of incorrect vaccine administration rather than a vaccine itself and it seems it can occur with any intramuscular injection. You can read a little bit more about it on this document from Salford CCG (NHS).
    I hope it brings some small comfort to know you aren't alone and please let us know how you get on.  Take care  <3
  • Lynda62
    Lynda62 Online Community Member Posts: 2 Listener
    Thank you x 
  • chiarieds
    chiarieds Online Community Member Posts: 16,672 Championing
    edited June 2021
    Hi @Lynda62 - I'm sorry to read you're another that has suffered with incorrect administration of the vaccine. I'm a physiotherapist, & here are the exercises Cher mentions that I've been recommending for people to try at home:
    Stand & put the foot of your unaffected side slightly forwards so you have a comfortable base. Lean forwards, letting your affected arm hang. Now swing your arm backwards & forwards within your pain-free arc. Do this gently for a couple of minutes. Next try moving your hand in a comfortable circle first one way, then the other. Gravity thus helps aid movement, & you can increase the range as you progress, always moving your shoulder within your pain-free arc. Don't push through the pain as this just increases the pain cycle. Try this a little & often throughout your day. Hope this helps. :)
  • bt198
    bt198 Online Community Member Posts: 1 Listener
    edited June 2021
    Hi, I’m so glad I found this post. My doctor recently confirmed that my shoulder/neck arm pain a week past second dose was a result of improper technique. The needle was too high up on my arm. (About a finger width from top of my shoulder). While I am so happy I’ve been vaccinated (and know the vaccine itself did not do this… but rather the person who administered it), I can’t help but wonder if the vaccine will have the same efficacy if not placed in the meaty deltoid. Does anyone have feedback from their doc on this? Mine said all should be fine, but I do worry. I received Pfizer for both doses.

    Again, I’m super pro-vax and even though I’m in pain I’d do it again for the protection! Just wondering if anyone received feedback re:efficacy if not in the correct injection site. 

    Thanks so much! 
  • MikeR
    MikeR Online Community Member Posts: 7 Connected

    Hi All,

    I thought I would share with you my own experience after receiving my first covid vaccination over 4-months ago in my left arm. I believe this may be a result of the administration of the vaccine, not the vaccine itself.

    Throughout the period, I have continued to experience pain in my upper left arm and shoulder almost 24-hours a day, quite often this is excruciating! So much so I usually collapse onto my knees and cry until the pain abates. Getting dressed can be difficult, tying my dressing gown, fastening my belt, etc.… not to mention how troublesome washing and drying myself after a shower can be given the restricted movement of my arm. Even holding a drink, typing on a keyboard for five minutes causes shooting pains in my upper arm and shoulder. You do not realise just how much you use your arm until it becomes restricted in some way. Further, during this period I have had so little sleep due to being unable to position my arm in a way to avert the pain and usually by mid-day I am feeling so exhausted, I struggle to remain focused on any task. I must admit; this is becoming incredibly stressful at times especially when the pain does not seem to ever go away. Currently, I am taking the maximum prescribed painkillers, sleeping tablets (which allow me to eventually grasp around three hours sleep) as advised by my GP and receiving physiotherapy at my local hospital. - I am male, aged 53.

    Ps: My second covid vaccination went well and I had very few side effects (right arm).


  • Cazza03
    Cazza03 Online Community Member Posts: 5 Listener
    Hi Mike, sorry to read your story which sadly is identical to many other including my own.  Some of us have come together and created a Facebook page to share our stores, info, and support each other.  Link is somewhere above in this thread if you would like to join us.  It's sad so many are suffering this. 
  • llahl55
    llahl55 Online Community Member Posts: 15 Connected
    Hi all, just an update. Finally got to see my doctor. He said basically the injection has caught my rotary cuff and that’s why I’m feeling so much pain. He said it was definitely administered too high (I can still feel exactly where it went in 16 weeks after having it done) He offered me either physio (with 6-8 weeks waiting list) or a steroid injection so I opted for that and had it done straight away. 
    Got to rest my arm for a couple of days then get it moving as much as I can without over doing it.
     I hope it helps as I can’t bare the constant pain anymore x
  • lisad75
    lisad75 Online Community Member Posts: 8 Connected
    Congrats on having a GP willing to say the injection technique is what's behind all the pain!  It still baffles me why the injections are administered so high in the upper arm ? I hope the steroid injection works for you ?
  • llahl55
    llahl55 Online Community Member Posts: 15 Connected
    lisad75 said:
    Congrats on having a GP willing to say the injection technique is what's behind all the pain!  It still baffles me why the injections are administered so high in the upper arm ? I hope the steroid injection works for you ?
    Thank you. Most of the doctor’s at the practice I don’t like but this particular one is brilliant. He actually listens and explains thing to you. He helped my husband a few years ago when no one else would listen to him. I won’t see anyone else now x
  • MikeR
    MikeR Online Community Member Posts: 7 Connected
    Hi All,

    Just a quick update....

    I have just had my next physiotherapy assessment at the hospital which included an ultrasound, a Hydrodilatation procedure on my left arm/shoulder and corticosteroid injection. Resulting in experiencing much less pain and vastly more movements in my left arm and shoulder. Last night, was my first goodnights sleep in four months!  :)


  • llahl55
    llahl55 Online Community Member Posts: 15 Connected
    MikeR said:
    Hi All,

    Just a quick update....

    I have just had my next physiotherapy assessment at the hospital which included an ultrasound, a Hydrodilatation procedure on my left arm/shoulder and corticosteroid injection. Resulting in experiencing much less pain and vastly more movements in my left arm and shoulder. Last night, was my first goodnights sleep in four months!  :)


    Glad your treatment is helping. I too have had a corticosteroid injection on Wednesday and it’s made such a difference. My arm is sore from the injection but that’s expected and it’s aching but I think that’s down to the lack of movement since March but the movement has improved so much. Let’s hope everyone else manages to get someone to listen and get treatment for their pain too.

  • MikeR
    MikeR Online Community Member Posts: 7 Connected
    llahl55 said:
    MikeR said:
    Hi All,

    Just a quick update....

    I have just had my next physiotherapy assessment at the hospital which included an ultrasound, a Hydrodilatation procedure on my left arm/shoulder and corticosteroid injection. Resulting in experiencing much less pain and vastly more movements in my left arm and shoulder. Last night, was my first goodnights sleep in four months!  :)


    Glad your treatment is helping. I too have had a corticosteroid injection on Wednesday and it’s made such a difference. My arm is sore from the injection but that’s expected and it’s aching but I think that’s down to the lack of movement since March but the movement has improved so much. Let’s hope everyone else manages to get someone to listen and get treatment for their pain too.

    Hi llahl55,

    Thank you for your kind comment.

    I too am glad to hear you are doing okay!

    For me, the services (NHS) I have received from my doctor, physiotherapist, etc.… have been second to none! I feel incredibly lucky to have experienced the exceptional service and professionalism from the onset of me seeking medical help.