Russia Invades Ukraine..........What should we, Europe/U.S./Rest of the world, do??????

JustPete

So, it has come to pass.  We have woken up to the inevitable.  Russia has invaded Ukraine in a land grab.  These are scary times for Europe and the World.  We must pray for the people of Ukraine and anybody who has family & loved ones in the area.

History should teach us how to react.

The West seems reticent to put feet on Ukraine soil.  Punitive sanctions did not prevent the start of invasion, nor will it stop it.

So..........what is the answer?  What do we do now?

MarkM88

I don’t pretend to have answers, but it’s scary stuff. I’ve already had my mum and Nan on the telephone telling me they are scared for what might happen. 

JustPete

@woodbine I agree, but does Putin really care whether we cripple Russia do you think?  He, like Assad of Syria, will not really be personally affected.

JustPete

Perhaps, at 69 yrs of age, this is his last political action on the world stage?

APHRODITESHEART

SADLY,  MULTI PRONGED TACTICS. WHILST I AM  HORRIFIED WITH DEATH TOLL UKRAINE, WE NEED TO ALSO PAY ATTENTION TO REINFORCEMENTS AT THE ARTIC "BACK DOOR". WHERE ARE THEIR SUBS?

Lisatho11987777

I said that putin would attack  we need not to intervene no one wants world war 3 my cousin couldn't get out of the Ukraine I didn't realise they were both out there one got home the other text me before it went on the news or online saying we are under attack Russia are attacking  May god be with the innocent and with my cousin 

Wibbles

Russia (or rather its leaders) are bullies and if you remember how to deal with school bullies - you were always told not to react - I was wondering just how Russia can afford this - they have a GDP the size of Spain - how can they afford such a massive military (I realise that most of the population are living on the breadline - but still.....)

Putin, himself - is a madman - he is similar to Hitler and we all know what happened in WW2.

Lisatho11987777

We fear that my cousin may have lost their life in Ukraine we have still not heard from them since notifying us of the attack and personal messages 😔 we are praying they have gone to ground and safe hope is all we have 

janer1967

@lisathomas50 praying they are OK I'm hoping they are safe it may be they are unable to communicate if there has been disruption to mobile connection or Internet 

Lisatho11987777

We still haven't heard anything about my cousin all we know is they didn't get out of Ukraine before it was attacked the phone is no longer active we are expecting the worse the embassy have notified my aunt thst it could be months before we know my cousin is very much a Christian and even Ithough I  am not a practicing Christian I hope their faith is keeping them going I hope they are safe and hope is all we have 

This war is hard heartbreaking and I am at a loss why people thought putin wouldn't attack I have always said not to under estimate putin and as reports have said putin has always been a killer bit this time something is off with putin only what I have read and seen on BBC live news 

They have put all these sanctions in against Russia  and one I personally smile at not because its funny because they assume putin is stupid and he isn't and thsts the one where putins assets have been frozen he would of planned for all this this isnt just something  he just thought he would do he has been planning it for along  time he is attacking slowly in my opinion for a reason I belive he is trying to wear the Ukraine army out  I belive the worst is yet to come without help I dont belive Ukraine will win they need a cease fore but as news has said thst isn't happening Ukraine president isn't giving up 

The sad part I have seen on the news some of them are 18 and fighting for their country they haven't had their life they are still realy children 😢  how will that affect them haveing to kill another human being as like them are following what they are told to do 

The worst part as well is no one can help them only time nato can intervene is if he steps into a nato country or attacks a nato country which then goes into world war 3  is that what putin wants ??? It affects the whole world

They tested our war siren out scared the life out of me 


May God be with Ukraine thoughts are with family and RIP to all those who have already lost their lives we have to  remember the army's are following rules civilians are haveing to fight non of the men are allowed out they have to fight hope Ukraine president stays safe 🙏 

Wibbles

Anyone else concerned that all these sanctions imposed on Russia are simply turning them into a caged tiger with nothing more to lose? 
The nuclear option has been mentioned 

Wibbles

Frightening?
It's Terrifying!
Sleepless nights for 3 nights now
WW3? 

Wibbles

woodbine said:

Wibbles said:

Anyone else concerned that all these sanctions imposed on Russia are simply turning them into a caged tiger with nothing more to lose? 
The nuclear option has been mentioned 

The nuclear option hasn't been mentioned in the way you might think it has, all he has done is put his nuclear capability on "heightened standby", I'm 100% sure he has no intention of using them as Russia would in all likelyhood be flatened by the nuclear might of the UK USA and France.

The sanctions are in the main their to hit Putin and his backers where it hurts, in their wallets.

Interesting to note that Russia has increased it's interest rates to 20% this morning up from 9.5% to try and bolster the Rouble which is in free fall.

Also interesting to note that the price of Brent crude oil (the main oil price indicator) has risen $5 a barrel this morning to $103.

$103 for how much ?

Wibbles

I find it incredible that Liz Truss is actively encouraging Brits to travel to Ucraine to fight for Ucraine!! 

Wibbles

woodbine said:

It is a little bit odd that she is encouraging this as it is basically against the law.
The $103 is for a barrel of oil a barrel is 42 US gallons or 35 imperial gallons

Exactly what I was getting at - and after ISIS, where it was ILLEGAL to join them ?

JustPete

lisathomas50 said:

I said that putin would attack  we need not to intervene no one wants world war 3 my cousin couldn't get out of the Ukraine I didn't realise they were both out there one got home the other text me before it went on the news or online saying we are under attack Russia are attacking  May god be with the innocent and with my cousin 

@lisathomas50 We are thinking & praying with you. 

APHRODITESHEART

I HOPE AND PRAY FOR THE SAFETY OF THE INNOCENT POPULATIONS IN CONFLICTS, AND WARS. I AM SADDENED BY THE UKRAINIAN AUTHORITIES BLOCKING FOREIGN STUDENTS FROM LEAVING UKRAINE. I HOPE THE HOSTAGES ARE NOT MISTREATED. 

Wibbles

woodbine said:

I don't think they are hostages, they have decided no males between 18-60 can leave the country.

Not even disabled males??
Harsh 

APHRODITESHEART

HAVE THE RUSSIAN FORCES RELEASED THE CHENOBYL STAFF?
I DO NOT UNDERSTAND WHY THEY WOULD PREVENT NON NATIONALS  STUDENT VISA HOLDERS , BRAZILIANS , AFRICANS REGARDLESS OF AGE LEAVING THE COUNTRY??

Wibbles

APHRODITESHEART said:

HAVE THE RUSSIAN FORCES RELEASED THE CHENOBYL STAFF?
I DO NOT UNDERSTAND WHY THEY WOULD PREVENT NON NATIONALS of STUDENT VISA HOLDERS , BRAZILIANS , AFRICANS REGARDLESS OF AGE LEAVING THE COUNTRY??

Worse still is the chance of a further nuclear explosion from the reactor 

Lisatho11987777

It has been alleged that putin has cancer as its been said in some news reports also all the sanctions imposed on Russia  are just pushing us into world war three putin is being backed into a corner and he is angry we will be leaving him with no other option they shouldn't under estimate putin he has a plan he knows what he is doing