The Green Paper Discussion (the document link is here too!)
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okay so a lot of us can't take to the streets to protest but anyone on LCWRA only can make a claim for PIP.
Totally flood them ! (and it will mean people already receiving it will have review delays)
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Surely we are all ill/disabled.
Thats why we rely on benefits.
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Thank you for thank . But I’m still so confused. I assumed I’ll go over to lcwra so what’s esa on uc ? Why is there two sickness benefits ? Yes I also thought that . It was even reported when the Tory’s planned to scrap wca and have just pip assessment ppl said the claims will go up . They tried saving money when it was DLA but by the time they paid Atos etc and claimant numbers have risen that idea failed as will this one
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I sincerely hope that happens because the fact the media wont mention there's still around 32 billion in Benefits people have not claimed.
This is the warped thing about this, the UK pays some of the smallest amounts to disabled
yet they face the most hostile measures to get the money. Even those not in the LCWRA can make a claim as its a totally separate payment at the moment.
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I was always told told old style contributory ESA would not migrate, has this now changed with today's announcement?
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So as it stands right now.
People who currently on ESA who get the invite over to UC will not be worst off
if moving over makes that person worst off then the transitional protection kicks in
This is very important DO NOT apply for UC until you are invited as doing so before means you lose that protection of not being worst off. This is the shambles with my brother
because of the complex family setup they openly admit they have no idea how to proceed.
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I'm sure a lot of us are going to get a decent needed sleep tonight as maybe not effected in the short term. I'm equally as sure there are plenty that won't, and that's a horrible place to be. I don't usually repost other people's stuff on social media, but I did see this.
"How about awarding MPs their salaries on a points system? We can give them a 50-page form to fill out to show us what they have accomplished, and they can be regularly assessed to see if they qualify for money like disabled people. That would be more efficient, right?"
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You're welcome. I'm planning to create a range of short advice booklets about a range of things but with a special focus on disabilitiesa and illness. I'm hoping to have a few booklets and trial versions I could perhaps post here when they're done. Between myself and my family I think we've covered every single major scenario people can go through in their lifetimes!
I just discovered a good youtube site about ADHD that was helpful - the shorts made me cry with their accuracy: https://www.youtube.com/@ADHD_Chatter_Podcast
Do you actually have PIP right now, or is it UC/ESA? If you haven't got PIP I would still try to apply for it, the extra money will make a difference, I put it towards counselling amoung other things totry to keep my mental health sort-of OK.
With counselling I completely understand. My counsellor was orginally a trainee and I get a discount due to being on PIP that she offered. There's some registers you can look through where people offer discounted rates of £20-£30 (or pos lower) - but I know even that can be challenging for people. I could link some options if that helps?
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I effing hope so too.
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I don’t get SDP so I’ll be better off anyway but I’m confused as to what is esa on uc ? Why do some get lcwra and some get esa uc ? Why are there so many different benefits. CAB etc are going to need training again for all the new plans
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I think it is, I looked at criteria today, so you should be OK. 👍️Sorry if it's a duplicate answer.
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I think it is, I looked at criteria today, so you should be OK. 👍️Sorry if it's a duplicate answer.
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contribution-based Employment and Support Allowance (ESA), also known as New Style ESA, is not affected by the move to Universal Credit and will continue to be paid separately.
Sorry long day, So that part of ESA remains the same.
So the migration is for people on income related ESA to UC
and reeves wants the final migration letters out by Dec 2025 so by 2026 that part is closed.
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I think I'm on old style contributory ESA, is that a thing? It was before UC came in. Will this not be migrated either?
Thanks so much for the reply.
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Spot on. It's a bit weird to have mass media discuss whether one is a scrounger or not. It seems for existent claimants any actions will be delayed, and for many they can actually sleep and get on with their lives, at least in the short term, if the interpretations are correct. This is an example of how weird our society is. The government does have a 'behavioural science' unit , and I question whether this negative onslaught is to put people off claiming benefits. If that is the case, then it's severely at the detriment of people's mental health. I'd be surprised if over recent days there hasn't been a single suicide due to all this.
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Yes from what I gather that part wont change,
its the income related ESA migrations to UC are happening,
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Hi @bookrabbit
I think the part where you mentioned the £775 might be wrong or am misunderstanding what you put or am I just wrong in general lol! I assumed she said that £755 would be the extra "annual" amount by 2029 not the weeky? I know you didn't mention weekly but it reads as if thats what you meant? I'm sorry If I've misunderstood what you put.
You put:-
"Standard UC is supposed to rise to £775 by 2029 which is 👍 It has been shameful the way people were given less than they could possibly live on."
This was mentioned (I think)
"April 2026-27 the standard allowance rate for over 25's will rise by £7 a week taking it from £91 per week to £98 per week. This will cover both existing and new claims for Universal Credit. They will then continue to rise until 2029-30. According to Kendall, this will equate to an extra £775 by 2029-30."
If this is correct the £755 figure doesn't seem to make any sense to me? She says by 2029/30 it will be worth an extra £755 annually? If you add £7 per week for those 4 years it equals an extra £1456 annually?
Year 1 - 2026/27 £7 pw
Year 2 - 2027/28 £14 pw (years 1+2)
Year 3 - 2028/29 £21 pw (years 1+2+3)
Year 4 - 2029/30 £28 pw (years 1+2+3+4)
£28 x 52 weeks = £1456 annual extra
I need someone to try to explain this lol, maybe @apple85 could?0 -
Last updated May 2022,,, Dear god.
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I listened to Noah nyle on YouTube. He mentioned that they said they’re looking into protection for pip who don’t have pop but are on lcwra. I’m sure I got that right but it’s worth watching the video.
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Yeah it a genuine protest .. claim PIP and flood them. Like you say so much goes unclaimed so it would be a bonus to actually be awarded something.
I have held back from claiming PIP because of the stress. I am not going to view this as stress I am going to view it as a protest.
It will hit them harder than people standing outside in Westminster.
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