The Green Paper Discussion (the document link is here too!)
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I think I'm on old style contributory ESA, is that a thing? It was before UC came in. Will this not be migrated either?
Thanks so much for the reply.
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Spot on. It's a bit weird to have mass media discuss whether one is a scrounger or not. It seems for existent claimants any actions will be delayed, and for many they can actually sleep and get on with their lives, at least in the short term, if the interpretations are correct. This is an example of how weird our society is. The government does have a 'behavioural science' unit , and I question whether this negative onslaught is to put people off claiming benefits. If that is the case, then it's severely at the detriment of people's mental health. I'd be surprised if over recent days there hasn't been a single suicide due to all this.
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Yes from what I gather that part wont change,
its the income related ESA migrations to UC are happening,
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Hi @bookrabbit
I think the part where you mentioned the £775 might be wrong or am misunderstanding what you put or am I just wrong in general lol! I assumed she said that £755 would be the extra "annual" amount by 2029 not the weeky? I know you didn't mention weekly but it reads as if thats what you meant? I'm sorry If I've misunderstood what you put.
You put:-
"Standard UC is supposed to rise to £775 by 2029 which is 👍 It has been shameful the way people were given less than they could possibly live on."
This was mentioned (I think)
"April 2026-27 the standard allowance rate for over 25's will rise by £7 a week taking it from £91 per week to £98 per week. This will cover both existing and new claims for Universal Credit. They will then continue to rise until 2029-30. According to Kendall, this will equate to an extra £775 by 2029-30."
If this is correct the £755 figure doesn't seem to make any sense to me? She says by 2029/30 it will be worth an extra £755 annually? If you add £7 per week for those 4 years it equals an extra £1456 annually?
Year 1 - 2026/27 £7 pw
Year 2 - 2027/28 £14 pw (years 1+2)
Year 3 - 2028/29 £21 pw (years 1+2+3)
Year 4 - 2029/30 £28 pw (years 1+2+3+4)
£28 x 52 weeks = £1456 annual extra
I need someone to try to explain this lol, maybe @apple85 could?0 -
Last updated May 2022,,, Dear god.
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I listened to Noah nyle on YouTube. He mentioned that they said they’re looking into protection for pip who don’t have pop but are on lcwra. I’m sure I got that right but it’s worth watching the video.
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Yeah it a genuine protest .. claim PIP and flood them. Like you say so much goes unclaimed so it would be a bonus to actually be awarded something.
I have held back from claiming PIP because of the stress. I am not going to view this as stress I am going to view it as a protest.
It will hit them harder than people standing outside in Westminster.
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Hi Ray, I'm not a benefit specialist but if you have access to your medical records online, try to download and print out anything to support you. I thought I was exactly in the same position as you today, but I looked at old paperwork, and found my review put me on the points in two categories. I used to ramble on my claim form, this time for a review claim I bombarded them with doctors / consultant notes. That makes a massive difference from my experience.
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Hi all what will this mean for me i currently get high daily living and get lwrca extre money part i also work part time 17.5 iv tried working more hours in the past I can't mentally do it im so worried what will happen to mt money I also haven't had assessment since 2019 for lwrca
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As per I said to other, I was same until recent review, although my issues are longstanding and nothing particular to shift. On this review, I downloaded lots of medical notes from systm online ie my medical notes, enough to show a long term complaint of same issues. It may be worth calling PIP and asking their advice if you think there's more information you can provide.
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Does this proposed 'pip 4 point rule' have to go through legislation and the commons and Lords etc ?
Do you all think there will be legal pushback on this ?
Because imo its extremely discriminatory...I'm hoping this goes through the courts tbh.
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I’ve practically stopped eating and sleeping. Just obsessing over the cut backs . All I can work out is anyone that doesn’t get that 4 Points is in trouble . And the assessors are going to be gate keepers of the 4? Points , makes me think does Kendall know that hence recording assessments. I must admit I feel better right now but I’m sure I should.
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Someone now saying that the green paper states that if your in the new style ESA support group before 2026 and your reassessment stays the same then you will continue to receive that benefit, the new unemployment insurance is for new claims after 2026. Can anyone confirm
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I read some DWP paper they put out straight away, for a start it's not happening overnight. Also, they talking about support for those affected including some sort of transition. I know it's easy to say, but try get some sleep and allow our advocates work out what's what. xx
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I sent my hubby's in January spoke to them today and they said all reviews are on hold because the amount of new claims. She said 4 weeks to his end date you will receive a letter extending his award for 12 maths.
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Same here secretsquirel1....all I've seen today from kendall and Co is them basically 'pulling the rug ' from underneath the majority of the sick and vulnerable.
I've also had chest pain tonight....no doubt brought on by the stress of this nonsense.
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Forgive me for being a bit dim, but I don't understand the thing about LCWRA being frozen at £97. Does that mean that the payments will be stopped, or cut? I haven't been sleeping well and my concentration is effed up.
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I am wondering the same .As it is just cruel.
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I hope this is right. I’ve been unable to cope all day, I’ve just woken up from a pretty sad and disorienting sleep. They cannot just take ESA from us in the support group, it’s just unacceptable to expect us to work when we have been found not well enough to. No jobs can accommodate many people’s illnesses.
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There's a one good news for existing LCWRA claimants:
We will guarantee that no-one who has been found LCWRA prior to April 2026 and remains LCWRA following reassessment will see their UC health element entitlement changed
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