The Green Paper Discussion (the document link is here too!)

just4once · March 19

I think a lot of people are struggling to understand what has been announced and no doubt the genuine fear of how we are going to to try and cope and manage in the future has impacted us too I personally cannot control bowels and have a closmat toilet fitted and I have a bath board and rails fitted too so these class as aids I guess I am still waiting on my review from December been through two lots of tribunals already dreading having to do a third one so in the future if you hear of someone having a poonami in the job centre it will probably be me I would like to work but what employer could tolerate the mess

secretsquirrel1 · March 19

Maggie37 · March 19

https://forum.scope.org.uk/discussion/comment/1001658#Comment_1001658

Yes it’s so short sighted isn’t it. It’s like they’re deluding themselves. All serious conditions are going to get worse of you remove money and the right for a carer? So you will have more strains on hospital services and GP’s. The four point fiasco has to go. I actually get four points and am on enhanced for daily living but I can see that someone may have more points than me in 2/3’s overall?

It’s the definition of ‘Cutting off one’s nose to spite their face’.. it’s going to lead to more sickness and disability not less.

thedude · March 19

I read that Scotland doesn't get PIP but I get LWCRA. Does anyone know what will happen in Scotland are they going to be able to make their own decisions in terms of any changes? Does anyone know where to find the points I was awarded for the LWCRA uc50 form? Thanks.

lily84 · March 19

Hi, Can someone explain the legacy Esa and ns Esa bit, as I'm confused. I moved from incapacity benefit to cb Esa only around 2019 so what kind of Esa am I? Also any info on what happens with people still on dla?

Aella · March 19

https://forum.scope.org.uk/discussion/comment/1001658#Comment_1001658

They are thinking that they save money either way - either you go to work, or you die. Either is acceptable to them.

Aella · March 19

Can someone explain this to me. So if you get PIP, you will still get LCWRA, right? And the PIP assessment will be all you need, you won't get an extra assessment for the LCWRA? But at the same time they are bringing in more frequent assessments for UC. If I get PIP and automatically qualify for LCWRA, will I still have to be assessed again for UC?

lily84 · March 19

Forgot to say I have no uc or income related benefits, just cb Esa and dla

secretsquirrel1 · March 19

Tomorrow Charlie Anderson will be posting a video of the breakdown of the new benefit reforms. I know some don’t agree with her methods but she explains things clearly and I personally think the more information the better. I’ll post on here when the video is up for anyone interested. Hopefully we can all start to feel a little better today as we at least know more of what’s happening and be rest assured others who are on our side will be planning action to fight for us all x

secretsquirrel1 · March 19

bellenbeau · March 19

new to here, been getting standard rate pip and high rate mobility since 2015 but only score 2 points on most of the descriptors, so with the changes would I not qualify as I don’t score 4 points on any of them, also I’m in the support group for contribution based esa since 2019 when I was given Ill health retirement from my job what going to happen to people in the support group is it being scrapped? Will they force me to look for work? I will loose every bit of income as have as I get ill health retirement pension from my previous NHS job

My pip is currently being reviewed on a soft touch review

Not slept a wink last night worried sick

Conflicting information online so if anyone can answer any of my questions would really appreciate it

Thanks

snuggles65 · March 19

https://forum.scope.org.uk/discussion/comment/1001449#Comment_1001449

That all well and good but what if you lose your pip will you lose your lcwra?

Catherine21 · March 19

https://forum.scope.org.uk/discussion/comment/1000791#Comment_1000791

I hope so can they go back on this is they got it passed

Catherine21 · March 19

Lovely message thankyou

Catherine21 · March 19

https://forum.scope.org.uk/discussion/comment/1000784#Comment_1000784

I hope they can't keep from us what thier take out it's pretty unfair for people with mental health I hope they define what is classed as severe

rebel11 · March 19

O.K., if I had power and influence over the community and every single disabled person in the Country receiving benefits, I would turn this around and say to the Government 'We all want an assessment' but you need to carry it out within the next 6 months'. We all send in a letter requesting the assessment with the time limit.