The Green Paper Discussion (the document link is here too!)

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  • egister
    egister Posts: 860 Empowering

    UK is a great country, why listen to Trump and fulfill his wishes? Or…?

  • egister
    egister Posts: 860 Empowering

    Over the long years of voting, have the deputies helped you in any way? They certainly didn't help me.

  • Catherine21
    Catherine21 Posts: 4,720 Championing

    Dont react on your emotions your scared terrified I'm sure people working really hard behind the scenes hold in there pls let's take one day at a time they are bully boys throwing weight around let's give it time then charities will be telling us what's going to happen let's see it could all turn around we are all here together

  • rebel11
    rebel11 Online Community Member Posts: 1,687 Pioneering

    I'm sure the 'House of Lords will take a look at it as it passes through the other Chamber.

    They tend to provide 'Safe Guards'.

  • Catherine21
    Catherine21 Posts: 4,720 Championing

    What does this mean

  • EmmaC89
    EmmaC89 Online Community Member Posts: 5 Listener

    so does no one not know about adults still on DLA then and how it effects the changes?

  • alexroda
    alexroda Online Community Member Posts: 126 Empowering

    hi

    New in here, gone through the green paper and obviously it’s atrocious.

    One thing I’d say that hasn’t got much or no attention is paragraph 53 and 54 regarding the new Insurance Employment.

    It is very badly written, and I believe it’s on purpose.

    Anyone with ESA contribution based, if that proposal goes ahead, will lose their entitlement eventually. As well as any NI contributions for their future pension.

    this is clearly discrimination done in a very devious subtle way.

    So if you are on ESA contributions based I would reply to their green paper pointing that out.

  • Donna_donna
    Donna_donna Online Community Member Posts: 28 Empowering

    Exactly that ...oh I'm so,so grateful that you wrote that post I really truly am.

    It is sometimes extremely difficult to see the blatantly obvious but feel you have to keep your gob shut about it.

    I am afraid I can't see the things that have been going on in any other way,it is so clear to me.

    I despise politics and wouldn't vote if I was paid,but I can see darkness when I see it and kier stalin is that personified, an extremely dark force,possibly the worst yet.

    Those "napoleon" eyes of his.

    Barf.

    Thankyou for replying ❤️

    .

  • pinkrose
    pinkrose Online Community Member Posts: 160 Empowering

    Wow that's interesting jimm19, I was wondering about backlogs because I was told on the phone a few weeks ago by dwp that I'm due for an esa lcwra assessment April 2026.

    Makes me wonder will that be done on time .....

  • neil12345
    neil12345 Online Community Member Posts: 56 Connected

    Im on lcwra awarded last August. Will I be reviewed this year or next year

  • Jenwren
    Jenwren Online Community Member Posts: 81 Empowering

    I know it's frightening but please try to remember a green paper is a govt wish list (and a very disturbing one at that). The tories repeatedly tried to push through similar leglistation, but were blocked by lords, charities and courts.

    As much as the govt wishes, it cannot ram legislation through in a few weeks/months. There is a process they have to follow legally. They may not care about us but Starmmer is a lawyer - and if he's found to break our laws it's not going to play out well for him on the international stage, because then he's untrustyworthy and it's a bad look when you're trying to show the world you're a statesman and gain global standing (re Ukraine, Trump, middle east, UN, europe etc etc).

    There's even talk that the consultation of the green paper (so legally I believe they have to get people - the public, charities etc) being unlawful - so they might be taken to court on this issue alone right at the beginning. The one thing they don't have on their side is infiniate time. They have four years - and judging from disabled and non disabled people's reactions, they will not get a second term. A lot of his MPs will be angry because either a) they genuinely care about people or b) they don't but they absolutely don't want to loose their seat along with their salary, expenses etc, they won't all be able to fall back on billion pound mates contracts, do tv shows and write memoirs, a lot will be jobless in four years if they sign up to this. THe best thing we can do is make it slow and painful and looooong for the bill - ideally so in four years they are either still trying to pass it or it's got watered down so much it's not close to what they want or the courts have found it unlawful.

  • pinkrose
    pinkrose Online Community Member Posts: 160 Empowering

    You are right Sharon. We are being punished for having disabilities.

    I'm so disappointed in many of the disabled charities, I expected uproar today....but .....hardly any real pushback at all.

  • Fuji
    Fuji Online Community Member Posts: 91 Empowering

    Give them time, the green paper only came out yesterday. I know scope have said they are reviewing it and will update in due course.

  • Jimm19
    Jimm19 Online Community Member Posts: 50 Contributor

    @Ross1975 my 2 year LCWRA award period expired in April 24, I haven't heard anything yet regarding reassessment.

  • geckobat
    geckobat Online Community Member Posts: 73 Contributor

    Might be a daft question but should I apply for PIP right now? I'm on LCWRA only and with the online benefits calculator looks like I'd qualify for PIP. I never went for it because I was scared they'd turn me down and then take my LCWRA off me. Now I don't know if it would be worth doing before any changes and if it would help me later on if I'd already managed to get it now. Or is there just no point. I'm scared to even try.

    Or I'll just leave it and see what happens in the future :(

  • kreacher
    kreacher Online Community Member Posts: 289 Empowering

    i was ok yesterday as i had a four point scorer for the daily living part in pip, so thought i was ok, earlier today i found a new descriptor thing and where i scored 4 i will only score 2, so it looks like i will be losing the daily living bit of my pip. I got ongoing enhanced in both in 2020, so not due for a reassessment until 2030, so what will happen?

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