The Green Paper Discussion (the document link is here too!)

They can say that. It doesn't change reality. They could say the sky was red, doesn't change the facts.

Fact is this has to go through a legal process, we need to pressure back benchers and our MPs not to agree to the bill - tell them they will loose our vote. They might not care now. In four years they will. They can't turbo charge the process. They can and will threaten MPs to comply and give bad faith 'consultations' with the public. They can demand savings of £6 million for defense, the blunt truth is even if they scrapped PIP, UC and ESA it probably would give them that £6 million because every other sector would suffer fallout. Just because they say things are non negtioable doesn't mean they get it. A green paper is nothing more than a govt wish list.

The tories tried this, my God did they try, and the courts rejected it, and there plans were scrapped. George Osbourne didn't attempt it even during austerity because he knew it'd get thrown out.

We make this bill take forever, we take it to the courts, we scream about it, there are a lot of gen public who don't like it either. They have friends/family who are sick/disabled. 1 in 2 people will now get cancer or dementia. This isn't a random hypothertic maybe-what if scenario. Mental health is at crisis point for a lot of people due to cost of living crisis.

They will not forget this govt scrapped the winter fuel, kept the two child cap, slashed international aid (making us all less safe)…the list is endless. Passing this bill won't be quick no matter what they want. MPs know they will be jobless and no MP (saving the v wealthy and psychos) wnats to be yelled at every day because someone's terminally ill family member lost PIP, or that a carer lost their job because the person who was on PIP couldn't afford them, a lot of companies that have a disabled customer base will be put severely at risk (think of mobility scooters, meals on wheels, home aids/adaptations, employers will loose disabled employees, the NHS will be absolutely flooded when people can't afford their carers any more, social care will be floaded, housing will be floaded. The money disabled people spend to make their lives a bit easier or even necesities will disappear and shrink the ecomony. This isn't just few sick/disabled people that they can write off and ignore because they don't 'contribute' - this will rebound in ways they have not considered into all sectors.