The Green Paper Discussion (the document link is here too!)

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  • mawempathy
    mawempathy Online Community Member Posts: 75 Empowering
  • charl1980
    charl1980 Online Community Member Posts: 199 Empowering

    I don't know if I can write this elsewhere but anyone else feel physical sick, I have had diarrhea, and sleeping issues, SH and I carnt get past this I'm so scared I think people will become suicidal at this, do u really think it will happen to this extent

    I'm under mh services FYI xx

  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Online Community Member Posts: 619 Trailblazing

    are they planning on changing the form questions itself ? I thought I read one of them (Timms?)say they’ll be looking at it years down the line after looking into the assessments ?

  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Online Community Member Posts: 619 Trailblazing

    just watched kernowdamo on YouTube regarding two resignations, one from a MSP . He read his resignation letter to Starmer and it’s everything we’d love to say .

  • Middleton
    Middleton Online Community Member Posts: 242 Empowering

    BBC news

    Pip assessments involve questions about tasks like preparing and eating food, washing and getting dressed. Each is scored on a scale from zero - for no difficulty - to 12 - for the most severe - by a health professional.

    For example, needing help to wash your hair or your body below the waist, would be awarded two points, but needing help to wash between the shoulders and waist would equate to four points

    How on earth does this make sense!

  • Middleton
    Middleton Online Community Member Posts: 242 Empowering
    edited March 20

    So, the Navel and mid-scapula are now the criteria

    Ooops! maybe it doesnt mean navel; but rather the mid shoulders down to waste🤔

  • mawempathy
    mawempathy Online Community Member Posts: 75 Empowering

    Some of the questions on the form will change alongside the descriptors I would think. No point asking questions that are no longer relevant to scoring the assessment. But it's all guessing at the moment not even the government has got the answers yet.

  • Middleton
    Middleton Online Community Member Posts: 242 Empowering

    If this is at all fortunate for me; its on record(all typed out in the assessment) that I couldn't place either arm behind my back🤔

    That still doesnt mean they wont mess with me, but i'll be bringing that up in the coming renewal

  • Middleton
    Middleton Online Community Member Posts: 242 Empowering
  • mawempathy
    mawempathy Online Community Member Posts: 75 Empowering

    It sounds crazy, doesn't it? It's all about giving the assessor the tools to limit your score by setting as many traps as possible.

  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Online Community Member Posts: 619 Trailblazing

    last time I looked my head was above my shoulders so completely stupid. Though Someone did say maybe washing your back ? But as someone with fibromyalgia and cervical spondylitis plus tennis and golfer’s elbow pain changes all the time

  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Online Community Member Posts: 619 Trailblazing

    in my experience last time assessor asked questions that would award 2 points only . I got my full points for an award but wouldn’t in those circumstances now . This was a couple of years ago and apparently common. Next time I’ll be more vigilant to their scam

  • Tonawanda17
    Tonawanda17 Online Community Member Posts: 174 Contributor

    Hi, i'm sorry to keep asking this but i posted yestarday and haven't noticed if i have had a reply. I am long term disabled with cerebral palsay. I am on CB ESA Support group and pip (NO UC). Does anyone know what will happen when my claim comes up for review. Will i move over to the suggested new time limited benefit? Thanks

  • evelyncourtney
    evelyncourtney Online Community Member Posts: 96 Empowering

    Where have they said that the descriptors are changing?

  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Online Community Member Posts: 619 Trailblazing

    I imagine some questions will have to incorporate the wca element otherwise surely discrimination

  • charlie72
    charlie72 Online Community Member Posts: 130 Empowering

    When are they starting these reassessments for LCWRA? It all seems a bit vague at moment with some saying it's for people who's circumstances may have changed since their last one, like pregnancy and those recovering from cancer, is this true as green paper is mind boggling!!

  • snuggles65
    snuggles65 Online Community Member Posts: 74 Contributor

    Hi

    My pip is due for renewal Nov 26 so will I have to through the new assessment and will I need the 4 points?

    My hubby as irESA support group and enhanced on both will help be ok if s gets the enhanced. We have to move by 7th June to UC

  • carbow32
    carbow32 Online Community Member Posts: 252 Empowering

    that's what it said on the green paper and then to move onto other people who are likely to have a change in award.

  • Middleton
    Middleton Online Community Member Posts: 242 Empowering

    Whats so important between the shoulders and waist🤔😁

  • Wozza
    Wozza Online Community Member Posts: 14 Connected

    Hi all,

    I currently receive the LCWRA payment as I meet one of the criteria for acceptance, I can't swallow food or drink and have a feeding tube which is permanent.

    This was caused by Lymphoma in my neck/mouth, I've been in remission for about a year, but I'm still pretty smashed from the cancer, radiotherapy, chemotherapy and stem cell therapy.

    Will I lose this payment if the proposed changes come in and everything is assessed via PIP?

    I don't think I'd score 4 points on one descriptor, probably 1's and 2's throughout.

    All very stressful and any info would be appreciated.

    Warren

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