The Green Paper Discussion (the document link is here too!)
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I'd be willing to help give people any pointers if they want to try for PIP.
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I'll try to give people pointers if they like as I went through it for first time in about late 2023.
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Wow thank you so much for all this info about the process, I really appreciate it so much! I'm going to save and re-read it a few to time to let it sink in and hopefully I'll be able to try to apply.
Did you have your assessment over the phone or face-to-face?0 -
Even mel Stride said it was rushed and that the vunerable would lose out. That it was done because of reeves failed budget. Unions are against it as well
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So quick shout out to anyone who's just on UC/ESA support group (sorry forgot the intials, my brain is tired!) or anyone else thinking of daring to apply for PIP. I'd be happy to try to provide some tips/advice having gone through it in 2023. I'm thinking of doing a booklet/document/pdf people could use - if that's something that'd be helpful or of interest to any one?
Just a quick disclaimer - I'm not an expert, far from it, 2023 was my first time applying for PIP ever. But I learnt a lot and found a lot of helpful advice during the whole process.
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What is the worse they can do … not give you enough points. Then you can decide to leave it or appeal it. In the meantime you have contributed in flooding their system and after yesterday they really deserve it.
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Had the exact same score, despite all of the specialists that deal with me stating otherwise.
DWP are a law unto themselves!
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Good point!
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Thanks Catherine, that's really nice of you.
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You're welcome, I'm sorry it was so much info! I would strongly consider applying for PIP.
So my assessment was over the phone thank God. I think it was about between half an hour to an hour. Also one extra piece I forgot was if it makes you feel safer you can ask that you record the assesment (just use a recording app on your phone) as this tends to make assesors (the less empathic ones) behave better - also it's not your word verses theirs.
I was lucky I got a kind woman. I just cried afterwards and cried when I got PIP.
I'm looking at putting together an electronic booklet/pdf guide about applying for PIP if people want I'll try to knock out within a few days that will hopefully include a bit more detail and advice of things I might've forgot but also in bitesized bits.
Just take care of yourself, OK? Please be kind and gentle to yourself - body, mind and soul (sorry if that's cheesy!)
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Thanks Jenwren!
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They haven’t changed, don’t worry — the descriptors in the link you posted after this are exactly the same as the current ones. It does look a bit confusing because of how the article lays them out, but it’s just because they’ve only included things that would make you eligible for 4+ points and omitted any under that.
So if you got awarded 4 points on something, and your ability to do it hasn’t changed, then you SHOULD still qualify for 4 points on it on your next review.
The Green paper makes no reference to changing the eligibility criteria x
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Not cheesy at all, thank you so much for your kindness and advice as well as all the info, the more the better. It's all very much appreciated and take care of yourself too!
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I'm thinking isn't there that Law group Leigh Day maybe we could all email them to see if they could represent us forum claimants Vs Government or something
They've made a packet from the benefits fiasco - we've kept them busy for years!
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Yeah they will bring these things in to try keep us sweet after all this .. ironically around the time of the next general election .. they know exactly what they are doing
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Yeah you think you get atleast a 1 point, but as I qualified for standard , I didn't want to rock the boat, if that makes sense, due a reassessment in November 26, when it all changes just my luck
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So I been on incapacity benefit then ESA since 1996 for severe anxiety disorder and severe irritable bowel syndrome to be fair my last ESA assessment was back in 2012, but they always put be in work related activity group, then after once or twice seeing a work coach they realize,there no way a can work, and don't make me do any activities I do soil myself sometimes due to my IBS and it normally brought on my having anxiety attack ,catch 22 , embarrassing but it it's what it's , my question is ,I have my ESA 50 and returned back in September, so waiting on a reassessment, why are they not putting me in a support group what am I doing or am saying wrong any pointers please, both my conditions are really bad at the moment due to the stress of the green paper, and if they put me in work related activity group again , I don't know what I do, as I sure their make me engage, and I just can't, my doctor write a supporting letter I sent of with my ESA 50, thought I have not doubt that will be ignored or lost , any help please people
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Ellen Clifford just released a video on the reforms on YouTube channel Ben claimant . She mentions legal action and asks if anyone would like to put their name forward as a case
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hi all ,
Ellen Clifford has released a video on YouTube channel Ben claimant regarding the benefits reforms . She explains the changes and her thoughts plus action that is being planned including legal action
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Welome to the forum! My God, this green paper is the gift that keeps giving. I mean taking. Pretty sure I'm in that catagory, I think I get both income and contribution based. Yay. Thank you for pointing this out though, it's really important
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