The Green Paper Discussion (the document link is here too!)

IIf at least one of the activities under duly living scored 4 points then when you are due a reassessment you will continue to receive dailing living pip. Mobility isn't affected. If your condition was considered severe enough you may not even need a review for a long time and nothing will change without a review anyway as far as I understand this .

I agree this really is terrible especially as the scoring is quite subjective among assessors. I scored 4 in one activity but strangely for a category where I need the most help I only got 1 out of 8 as clearly they didn't comprehend the issue I have. At the time since my overall score enabled an enhanced award I didn't raise the matter of the activity concerning need for help with medication and treatments as being underscored so as to avoid further stressful interaction about my pip. Now that there is ths minimum 4 points on one daily living activity I can see how situations like I experienced with incorrect scoring will come back to bite unfortunate people so unfairly. If I hadn't 4 points in one activity I would now be planning to request a reassessment of the activity I knew was underscored at next review .the whole thing is totally unfair as the scoring is inaccurate and inconsistent. At least for the moment this hasn't been passed into law yet, nothing will happen until nov 2026. If your condition was considered severe enough to only need a light touch review in 10 years or you are not due for review anyway for ages then your pip should not be at risk anyway until that point from what I understand and then that point which could be years away, you should have the opportunity to present your daily living needs more persuasively ware of the new 4 point minimum appeal if necessary.. hopefully this may therefore not affect you for ages or at all.

no didn’t appeal I applied once pip then when it changed to adp in Scotland re applied but still no luck

If you are talking about pip it is not awarded based on what disease or condition you have whatsoever. It is only based on the impact of your condition on your mobility and daily living. It le purely a functional benefit, nothing to do with tour diagnosis whether for existing or new pip claimant. Didnt you know that ? Are you receiving pip?

I don't score 4 points on the daily living tasks either, but really feel when my PIP is up for renewal, I won't stand a chance. I will be back on the poverty line and my mental health will spiral down to a point I won't function at all.

Typically decisions made by fools who have no idea. I just hope the Mental Health charities can oppose this to the highest level and speak for those of us less able.

I thought Starmer was a human rights activist and yet here he is taking away that very thing from us.

I also wonder about old CB ESA?

This is what it's saying MB8 in the Green Paper. I feel there needs to be more clarification on this. I claim ESA (CB) and I'm in the support group and was awarded it for 10 years.

53. Unemployment insurance would be a new non-means tested entitlement for people who have contributed into the system. It would be created by replacing contribution-based Jobseeker’s Allowance (JSA) and Employment and Support Allowance (ESA) with a new single entitlement, paid at the current ESA rate (currently £138pw) and will be time-limited. This would provide stronger income protection during periods of unemployment for those with a recent work record, while revitalising the ‘something-for-something’ contributory principle in the working-age system. People claiming this would be expected to actively seek work, with easements for those with work-limiting health conditions.

54. Alongside levelling up the rate, this change would end the indefinite entitlement to contributory ESA for those assessed as having limited capability for work-related activity (for new people claiming). Those unemployed after the time-limited period would be able to claim UC, depending on their personal circumstances. We believe this reform would align with the removal of the WCA, by offering a route to financial support for those with temporary and short-term health conditions, including for those who may not be entitled to PIP and therefore not entitled to the health element of UC.