The Green Paper Discussion (the document link is here too!)
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Hi all,
I currently receive the LCWRA payment as I meet one of the criteria for acceptance, I can't swallow food or drink and have a feeding tube which is permanent.
This was caused by Lymphoma in my neck/mouth, I've been in remission for about a year, but I'm still pretty smashed from the cancer, radiotherapy, chemotherapy and stem cell therapy.
Will I lose this payment if the proposed changes come in and everything is assessed via PIP?
I don't think I'd score 4 points on one descriptor, probably 1's and 2's throughout.
All very stressful and any info would be appreciated.
Warren
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I have my over-the-phone UC Claim review at 2pm today. Will update later!
Received a note in my journal 3 weeks ago for bank statements etc
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Hopefully with the backlog being so huge you won't have one for very long time yet and you remain in the LCWRA
Makes not much sense why they would start these considering the UC transfer is going to be 60k esa claimants per month.
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Just to let you know I had mine in December. I was so worried snd as everyone knows the constant having to justify just wears you down.
It wasn't as bad as I thought though. There wasn't anything on my statements to challenge (what comes in goes out on living expenses, as with all of us!)
She questioned a one -off £50 cash withdrawal! 🙄 I like to keep a little bit of cash for an emergency - some cabs don't have card readers and last year I once had to get cab to hospital urgently so thought best to keep some cash.
But she did tell me they're going to happen every six months though going forward 😕
So Good luck - hope it's not too gruelling.
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I am really worried. I read paper and for over 3 years I’ve been in esa contributory band support group. The papers is silent on what will happen to me. I paid tax etc for many years and at a very high rate was discriminated etc against and destroyed by an employer hence had to claim this as medically advised. I’m in severely disabled high risk and to date not received medical treatment needed for complex trauma as mental health secondary team do not have resources. What will happen to people like me. Impact is huge as it effects other benefits, reliefs and rebates inc accrued ni which I’m 3 years away from. Any realistic insight would be much appreciated. I’m sure I’m not the only one.
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Lawyers are Lenin and Putin, not Stalin.
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My heart breaks hearing people so so so scared I am too ellen clifford is working in back ground all charities pls pls don't react on emotions we have everything running through our minds and bodies lean on each other this is not the end even though it feels like it hold in there give time for plans to be made and for people to fight these inhumane elitists it's been done before it can be done again keep writing to mps every week if we have to hold in there everyone I believe it will be watered down much love
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Always right to a minister as a minister.
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Is this going to be legally challenged. Our human rights are being violated by this despicable government. Also what points that you.struggle to.wash your hair.
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Thanks for the heads-up!
Are they checking to see if people have more coming in per se? My only income is from PIP & UC.
Isn't that odd to be asked why you withdrew £50 lol; where can any wrong be seen in that😁
So basically its not an enquiry on what we spend the money on?
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I had planned to withdraw any future funds (small amounts) so that I have cash where there are no card readers.
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Yes, various groups are already putting together cases,
Labour MP's are now upto 89 deeply unhappy
Kendall/Timms met with Labour MP's the meeting imploded on the news
Reeves is going to announce more cuts. Turkeys voting for Christmas springs to mind.
A lot of the MP's are the ones recently elected who barely won.
For me it boils down to this they are acting so sensitive and carefully worded around assisted dying Bill, Great concerns about disabled people but this is perfectly fine.
Starmer is not labour and I sincerely hope the story is correct thousands have already cancelled Labour memberships now we need the Unions to stop the funding. I sure his rich mates can top up the coffers,
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hi
New in here, gone through the green paper and obviously it’s atrocious.
One thing I’d say that hasn’t got much or no attention is paragraph 53 and 54 regarding the new Insurance Employment.
It is very badly written, and I believe it’s on purpose.
Anyone with ESA contribution based, if that proposal goes ahead, will lose their entitlement eventually. As well as any NI contributions for their future pension.
this is clearly discrimination done in a very devious subtle way.
So if you are on ESA contributions based I would reply to their green paper pointing that out.
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regarding the new Insurance Employment, paragraphs HD 53-54
Anyone with ESA contribution based, if that proposal goes ahead, will lose their entitlement eventually. As well as any NI contributions for their future pension.
So if you are on ESA contributions based I would reply to their green paper pointing that out.
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regarding the new Insurance Employment, paragraphs HD 53-54
Anyone with ESA contribution based, if that proposal goes ahead, will lose their entitlement eventually. As well as any NI contributions for their future pension.
So if you are on ESA contributions based I would reply to their green paper pointing that out.
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This is what they have plans on
A new contribution-based Unemployment Insurance Benefit
The Green Paper asks views on replacing New Style ESA and New Style JSA with one new Unemployment Insurance benefit. The rate of financial support would be set at the current higher rate of NS ESA. The benefit would not require a health assessment and would be based on an individual’s National Insurance record as is currently the case. Those with long term health conditions, would also be able to claim other relevant benefits where eligible.
Hope this helps 👍️
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and it will be time limit, hence you’ll lose your entitlement and NI contributions if you don’t qualify for UC
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Hello would love some help to understand about the new UC lcwra and pip changes coming soon I get all 3 and see they taking away lcw and lcwra in the year 2028 how can this affect me as I was given in January 2025 a infinity awarded for my lcwra and under it say about 10 years so what means it gets looked at again in the year 2035 if I'm correct but if it's being scrap in 2028 what well happened to the last 7 years on it?
Also I seen about pip where you have to now get 4 points for the Daly living I got 2 on some of them that add up to 10 points that give me lower end of pip and I got the full 12 points for mobility on just one out of the 2 as the other 1 got nothing and that ends in 2028 sometime I know by then I be in my 40s and my health is bad now I can't handle bits as of now so don't want to even think of what 40 plus me is going to be like but like everyone right now I am concerned and I seen all the people saying that most of the people on pip don't want to work and sit on there back side all day getting as they call it free money and that really irritates me as I work for years to I had a injury at work and then my health as decided over the years along with my mental wellbeing so I did work I can't no longer do it and I hope that that someone that is working making good enough money then losing it all and having no choice but to go on benefits it's a big change like I can't afford what I could when I was working at a full time wage
Any way sorry going of topic there as anyone have any ideas on what to expect going forward any help on this matter would be greatfall
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I'm another of the ones effected by the new 4 points rule and won't be eligible when reassessed next year. And the party line that it's to help people get back into work is absolute nonsense. I DO work (30 hours a week) and it's Pip that enables me to keep doing that because it funds the therapies and help I need to continue working. Without that help I honestly don't know how much longer I can keep doing it. It's already tough now. So this could be the tipping point for me.
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