The Green Paper Discussion (the document link is here too!)
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Yep, it is for LCWRA
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II dont think Id go so far as to say thwy are evil (re assessors)
Some are not very nice. Possibly just the way they are (so not sure why they're in that job 🤔 ) but possibly bullied by their superiors to get results.
Some are very human but are still under the cosh, so to speak.
As for Kendall Reeves & Starmer - (sounds like a dodgy firm if you ask me ) I think they are the evil ones
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Love this! You go for it! A degree is a degree. ☺
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I'm going to contact a few peers as well. I'm honing my draft. It must be flawless.
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Did you have to complete the same questionnaire before the phone call today?. I'm basically waiting to be reassessed and was wondering if I need to go through the whole process from scratch again?.
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No; this was simply a UC claim review.. Around 3 weeks ago i received a note in my journal asking me for 4 months of bank statements.
They asked me 2 questions concerning a couple of bank transactions and that was it.👍
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So they gonna get rid of Contribution Based ESA and then make it time limit and then you have to apply for UC.
What happens if your partner works fulltime ?
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I think they will take into consideration their earnings on any award for you then
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my first assessor was definitely evil . Hardly looked up from her computer. Asked me questions to which she had the answers . Wrote underneath everything I answered , claimant said she can’t do x. I say she can . Ignored my Drs letters, my Gp said he’d never had that before and was furious. Said my specialist letters claimed my condition was due to my child’s condition but I’m ok now . This was a lie . I have ME that was caused by glandular fever and there’s no cure. She even had the cheek to say I made good eye contact when she barely looked at me . Second assessor pretended to be friendly then down graded my points . To do the job and knowing the damage you’re doing to ppl imo they’re evil. And it’s us that being made out as liars and cheats to the system. When it’s the assessors that are the liars I know they’re trained to turn ppl down but the two I had were nurses , they didn’t need to be assessors . The first was definitely the worse , the second just crafty . So far and I don’t want to jinx myself ( touch wood , I’m touching my head 😂)the dwp have actually been nice and helpful.
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From the Benefits and Work site
What you can doContact a member of the House of Lords
Contact organisations you have a connection with
Making your voice heard is definitely not a waste of time.
It appears that the government were panicked into dropping a planned freeze to PIP before it was even announced, because of fears of a backbench revolt. So there’s clearly hope they can be persuaded to drop other measures.
Please use the comments section below to share ideas for speaking out, tell us what action you’ve taken or pass on responses from MPs, Lords or anyone else. But please do stay on-topic.
Take part in the consultation
Normally we would be urging people to take part in a consultation on an issue like this.
But the DWP consultation in this case is so unfair that we have very mixed feelings. It fails to ask questions about most of the issues that people would want to give an opinion on, such as:
- Changes to PIP scoring
- Abolishing the WCA
- Freezing the UC health element
- Having a single assessment for both PIP and the UC health element
You can read more about why we are so unhappy with the consultation here.
But we also know that the DWP may argue that lack of response means that most people do not object to the changes.
So, if you consider that taking part in the consultation is the lesser of two evils, you can do so here. The closing date is 30 June 2025.
Contact your MP
Whatever party your MP is a member of, it is worth contacting them.
Some parties will be against the cuts and your support for their position will encourage them.
Even some Conservative MPs may decide not to support the Green Paper, or may choose to only support parts of it, if only to cause problems for the Labour leadership.
And Labour MPs will need a lot of encouragement to have the courage to rebel.
You can email your MP via Write To Them
Even better, write them a letter or arrange to talk to them in-person at a constituency surgery.
We recommend that you make any communication very polite and reasonably brief. If you are going to be personally affected by the changes then focus mainly on how you will be affected by the proposals.
Contact a Lord
You don’t have your own member of the House of Lords, in the way you have an MP. But the House of Lords can do a great deal to challenge, delay and sometimes even change legislation.
If you visit the Lords section of Write To Them there is an option to “Find a Lord interested in my topic”.
You can put in key words like “PIP”, “social security”, “depression” – it’s best if you enclose them in quote marks – and you’ll be given a list of the Lords who have spoken about your chosen subject the most. It will also tell you which party, if any, they belong to. It’s worth checking what they have said on the subject as some may be strongly anti-claimant.
Alternatively, you can select a Lord who has a connection with where you live or work.
At the top of their results page there will be a link saying “I want to write to. . .” which will allow you to email them.
As with MPs above, please aim to be polite and reasonably brief.
Contact local media
Local newspaper are often fairly desperate for content, including reader’s letters. You can ask for your name and address to be withheld to maintain your privacy. Write about why you are concerned about the cuts and encourage other readers to complete the consultation or contact their MP
The Local Media Works website allows you to find the contact details for local papers in your area.
If you have a local BBC Radio station, you can find their contact details here.
Contact organisations you have a connection with
If you have a connection with a major charity, please contact them if you think they could be doing more to publicise the Green Paper changes and encouraging their members/visitors to take action.
Alternatively, if they are doing a great job, let them know that it's appreciated, because there's always an element of worry for a charity when it criticises the government
And you may have a connection with a smaller charity or a local branch that could also be more proactive on this issue, perhaps with some support from you.
Or you may be have contacts with an advice agency, housing association, trades union, housing association , food bank or some other group that could also be encouraged to do their bit.
Sign a petition
Signing a petition probably doesn’t achieve much on its own, in most cases. But if it’s just one of a range of ways you are trying to make your voice heard then it’s worth doing.
There's one from 38 Degrees headed No to cruel benefits cuts.
And Scope have a Cutting disability benefits would be catastrophic petition here.
Let us know in the comments section about any petitions you have spotted.
Support a campaign
There may be campaigns being run by different organisations that you can support.
Scope have a campaign asking people to contact their MP and request that they meet with Scope to discuss cuts to disability benefits.
Take part in a protest
We don't yet know of any protests against the cuts, but there may be some being planned. Let us know in the comments section or drop us an email, if you are organising one or aware of one.
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BBC news 3 more Dudley Labour councillors have resigned and will sit as independents over the welfare cuts
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Two more from disability news
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Does anyone know what's happening to old CB ESA? I'm in the support group. With all the announcements this week I'm left very confused about reassessments and / or mergers!
I heard that old style CB ESA would move to New Style ESA but that only last 12 months then onto UC.
Really hoping someone can explain this clearly as I'm so so confused and worried.
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are those questions different to the old firm then ? I thought it was same form and questions but you needed the 4
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When Dad died, his inquest is still in limbo going on 3 years now
We let the local housing benefit people know within 2 days.
the last thing we needed was hassle from them as the family setup is complex owing
to this condition being Genetic my younger brother has it also,
The "hub" where these people are based, when told my Dad had died and we wanted to inform them the reply from the person on the desk "so?" "and you have"
my sister was so taken aback she was walking away and the person on the desk told her
"I want the brothers bank statements and I want them tomorrow"
So the phone went and 40 mins "what's that whats that" "why you ordering so much on Amazon" "why prime" "why EE". in the end I just broke down and told her what is this all about why was she doing it she could see only 400 pounds in savings.
On taking advice all this should never have happened,
There never was a sorry and of course with the nature we lost dad who should still be alive today we were just broken. It was at that point my upset turned to anger I vowed they EVER do something like that again I will take legal action and make them wish they had never picked a fight.
There is currently a complete shambles going on with my brothers ESA/UC Migration again
we told them this is complex, Shared tenancy but for over 20 years HB has been split between me and him. I am still waiting for the invite over to UC and they already tried to make me
apply = lose the protection of the invite, They put my brother through to SEVEN different people all utterly clueless, then they revealed they are dealing with 10,000 "issues" and what normally should be 24hrs to reply will take 10 -15 days so they put an extension on his invite
they tried to make out he left it late to inform but then they saw over 2 months ago
he raised this issue and they said it would not trigger a COC for me but now it might
then "hmmmm not sure" then yes it would. The entire system is a mess.
He finally had a very nice person who informed him they have had this situation before and the truth is there is no setup for it, anything like this has to be done manually by the specialist
team. My brother is in the earlier stages of this condition but the stress part triggers
IBD like symptoms with severe bleeds, big ulcers coming out all over the skin, skin so fragile it rips and you look like you've just had an operation. they can only dampen things down with hardcore chemo infusions 9-12 hrs each,
Its gone CNS with me which they consider terminal the consultant knows already via my bloods, he called I told him and the amount of letters he's written to the DWP I swear could paper a small room. Sorry It sounds OTT the fear we have is real, these people really are either nasty, uncaring or clearly not a clue what they are doing and they are the most dangerous.
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I have deleted previous comment for now as I don't want to cause misinformation. I will read it through and do a side by side comparison. It does state on the benefits and welfare site that it is the New Test but it could be they have made a mistake.
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As a government they seem to have no plan , ideas of their own and just no idea how to run a country. I think this seems so rushed out that no one ( well I don’t ) has any real idea of what the rules will be . It all seems a bit of a mess to me x
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Hi everyoneLike everyone else the recent green paper has sent me into a state of confusion and worry.I am the recipient of the social mobility element, how I only scored four points for mixing with other people and will have an upcoming tribunal next month.The new scoring system emphasises at least four points in one category, I meet that criteria but I dont ,have the necessary 8 points for the daily living component, I take it I must convince the tribunal to award me a further 4 points under both systems to qualify for the daily living component?0
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