The Green Paper Discussion (the document link is here too!)
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I believe the other ESA, income based is being transitioned to Universal Credit, don’t know much about it. Maybe some one else can help regarding that.
Do you have 4pts for daily living in total?
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MB8 I'm in the same position as you. I claim CB ESA and was given a 10 year award and put into the support group. All will become clearer in the coming days/weeks regarding this by the government. I'm just waiting to hear on how we'll be affected straight from the horses mouth, so to speak.
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Oh dear, what a shame their recording equipment suddenly didn't work… 🤔
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My advice from all my understanding so far is do NOTHING! you are currently receiving your pip award. The changes haven't not yet been enacted. That has to happen .and then it does not apply till nov 2026. Like you, I also have light touch review after my 10 years in 2030 but my award is considered ongoing probably like yours. They had said existing claimants will not be reviewed for new pip criteria until when next due for assessment so so nothing until that time of course. Given the likelihood you have a progressively worsening condition like me, no doubt by your light touch review which is done on paper , you can inform them of worsening need for daily care. This may then prompt a f2f review and you should hopefully be scores higher for daily living but that is a long way off 3 years still. I lot could still change by then..don't worry for now is my advice. Concentrate on the category that you can becauase they probably underscored you on and explain your needs. I am sure you can also appeal if necessary. Government did also say they wish to eliminate reassessment for most severe of conditions so maybe we will find that they don't even bother with light touch reviews and perhaps you'll just stay as you are. The whole thing is just ridiculous frankly. What they think they will save on paying benefits they will lose out in time and money on even more appeals.
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Thank you for the helpful reply, it's sensible advice and I will try to forget it all for now, sorry to ask, but am feeling so low today about all of this. Thanks.
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Yes i think so.. I hope so too if anyone can help
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in my case they blamed the dwp for booking an assessor who didn’t have equipment. The dwp said they don’t book the appointments . I believe the dwp were telling the truth . Atos were lying yet again
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My local MP, who is Labour, wrote to me (unprompted, I hadn't emailed her yet, was planning to today) and she is very much against the Green Paper Reforms. Hope that may be of help? Knowing that even Labour MPs are against this. Gave me a glimmer of hope today so hope it does for others.
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@secretsquirrel1 I used an old mobile to record the conversation while I spoke on my mums phone to the assessor, even though it was being recorded by "them".Funny my link to download the recording didn't work...hmmmm.so I requested a cd copy.
Made little to no difference as the rubbish chatted on my report were a joke if not so serious an issue. xx
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I don’t think you can get PIP if you have 4 pts overall within all the questions of daily living
You currently need a minimum of 8pts combined between all 10 questions.
From nov 26, you’ll need to score at least 4 pts in a single question and have an overall of at least 8pts from all 10 questions.
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Most are truly evil . The dirt of job that would suit demented Kendall , Rachel from accounts and psycho starmer
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The criteria itself won’t be changed — the descriptors are staying the same. The change is that now your score for Daily Living needs to include 4 points (or more) on at least one descriptor.
So same criteria and same points for meeting descriptors but the way your score is added up is different, if that makes sense x
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Can someone advise how do you know if you are on *light touch * reviews ? My next one is due April 2026 .
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I can definitely understand that. I have been in a panic too.
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I cant uunderstand your English in this sentence
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I sincerely hope those MP's some of them will remember 2010 the Libdems let power totally switch off that moral compass and wow did they pay at the next GE, Basically wiped out
and it took them 10 years to even get decent numbers back, everything about this is wrong
and more economists are saying the same, Reeves and her Fiscal rules went out the window
like a Critic of Putin the day America Elected Trump. He's back he's causing chaos add into the mix her failure to sort out the brexit shambles.
Starmer and Labour are forgetting one thing, People actually liked Blair until Iraq they do not like him. He can cosplay all he wants with the armed forces, There is no way Labour will keep the Senedd in Wales, They have blown the trust that people in Scotland put in them last year.
All Starmer does is crush trust.
Reeves apparently will announce more welfare cuts next week, why?
because her fiscal rules have already meant she wont be able to stick with them
so they have to find money and 90% of this is why all these "reforms" are happening
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I’m personally oddly excited (well not excited but I don’t know what word I’m trying to say. Enthusiastic I suppose) to write my response to the GP. I did a masters degree in policy at uni… just managed to scrape a pass and left not wanting to have anything more to do with it, and thinking that it would never be applicable to anything I would do in the future.
And now this! Looks like I’m going to get to put it to good use after all. I’m going to try and write it on the legal/policy aspect (did some law as well) and how abominable it is from that perspective.I’m also considering reaching out to some of my old lecturers for help on responding to it, and I’ll try and get them to respond too.
We can all work together on this and we will make it through.
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I also just wanted to say though, this is such a stressful time and I know a lot of us are really shaken up at the moment, so please don’t feel any pressure to do anything right now. You’ll probably hear people talking about going out to protest and doing this and that and whilst that is very important, not everyone can, and that’s okay. If responding to the GP seems too much, that’s okay too. The most important thing is that you stick here with us. We are a community and we need to stick together now more than ever. If all you can do is get through the day, then that’s more than enough. Reminder that you are valid, loved, and very important. ❤️ to each and every one of you.
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@YogiBear and @MB8 I have completed the consultation this afternoon and shall be contacting my MP and parliamentarians sympathetic to disability claimants about this vague proposal for time-limited Unemployment Insurance benefit over the next few days.
Note the words near the end:
"a route to financial support for those with temporary and short-term health conditions, including for those who may not be entitled to PIP and therefore not entitled to the health element of UC."
I've been disabled since childhood. I'll never get better.
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