The Green Paper Discussion (the document link is here too!)
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Starmer won't back down he will spend millions fighting
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It's true, this is terrorising us. I can't stay 10 minutes without this terror coming on to my mind..
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You shouldn't have told this cruel dishonest and terrorising system that you've 14k.
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Has he ever said he worked for DWP ?
Interesting to know and at what level.
I know he regularly says he knows folk who work for them and they email him,
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But if I hadn't I would have been prosecuted for fraud
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I know it can be confusing, I was the same until I looked into it, it can be even more confusing when stressed out, tired, conflicting comments on here, and in the media. The bottom line is, YES these reforms can be pushed through and fast tracked into legistation, but can still be challenged if deemed to discriminate or breach our human rights, which they no doubt do.
There could be a judicial review if it's passed (unlikely) which would delay it again by months or over a year until heard in court. It could go to the High court, or supreme court of appeal, which could delay by years, which in that time unlikely Labour will be voted in again. Other political parties like maybe Reform or Tories would no doubt have their own welfare reforms, but the same thing would happen again with appeals etc.
Beleive me, there is a long way to go yet, I know we are all in mass panic and under loads of stress, wondering what's going on behind the scenes, if we're being listetend to!! I can assure you we have plenty of support from lots of people who are looking at ways to defeat these cuts, or delay them from happening.
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Also people will lose their carers allowance if they look after someone who doesn't get those 4 points and this evil government have already worked that one out.
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This was supposed to be the case. My paper assessment was handled by a neurology CNS. When I completed my form, i stated that I took it for granted that I would be assessed by a HCP was experience and expertise in the field. This indicated that I'd fight on and win if the assessment went against me.
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You're so right. I've long been convinced that the shift from DLA to PIP served as an advertisement and is at least in part responsible for the rise in claimants.
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This is a point that the damn government and many people are not thinking of. Many people, particularly single mothers, who are working part time as carers would lose their jobs once the sick and disabled people lose their award; hence more unemployed people.
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most abled British people simply don't want to do bricklaying and similar manual jobs. The pay is ****, they offer minimal career progression. Moreover, manual labour jobs will wreck people's bodies and force an early retirement (and given governments keep raising the retirement age, effectively forces people into destitution in their middle age).
The only way ableds, especially British people, will take up apprenticeships like bricklaying is through abuse and coercion.
Stellar, brickies earn a small fortune!!
I don't understand what's so special about British people nor what's wrong with learning a trade? I did and I still have great muscles thank you 💪
I wish I'd been encouraged to take up an apprenticeship straight from school. I wish I hadn't listened to this sort of attitude from my parents.
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It's insane to all of a sudden cut benefits to someone who has been ill for years and who has been surviving on LCWRA and expect them to go get a job and be working! Bang!
This must be a perfect example of intentional indifference and pure cruelty.0 -
Oh bless you thankyou for explaining x
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when we first went over to pip I had all Drs letters including my specialist. Zero points . Plus they tend to downgrade 4 point questions to 2 points . It doesn’t help that I gave invisible conditions ME and fibromyalgia. I even submitted a letter from GP stating my prognosis is not good . Assessor just ignored all letters
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I think I remember him saying he was working in fraud , he knows a lot about pip
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I've been having a down day with the benefits cuts today. It's just progressively making me feel so helpless. I've emailed my MP (who is thankfully supportive) and waiting for her response. She did email me a few days ago unprompted expressing her support. I've also written to some articles about it. Just feel this impending doom
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God unbearable I just want to lie in bed and never get up sorry
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“I worked very hard in a professional career and paid into the system yet now I am viewed as a useless waste of space nobody in society.”- @luvpink , Sadly,this is exactly how I and the rest are made to feel. I empathise with you🤗
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Sadly, the social model of disability, often propounded by disabled people and disability charities, enables this political outlook. Disabled people and charities have blamed employers and infrastructure, etc for not working. Thus, governments can focus on "breaking down barriers". But for the most disabled it is the condition itself that is a unremoveable barrier to work.
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