Green Paper Discussion (from 24th March, 2025)

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  • Ranald
    Ranald Online Community Member Posts: 880 Championing

    The thing is, they didn't win by a landslide. The Tory vote collapsed, and first past the post did what it does.

    I seem to recall that Corbyn in 2017, he actually got more votes than Starmer did in 2024.

  • Ranald
    Ranald Online Community Member Posts: 880 Championing

    Labour - the gift that keeps on giving! We are collateral damage of course…

  • silmarillion
    silmarillion Online Community Member Posts: 35 Empowering

    Ranald, I was medically retired from my job and I was quite unwell from all the stress I’d gone through with office bitching and backstabbing. I didn’t get any universal credit for 8 months and they didn’t tell me about legacy benefits. I, had to go in for weekly job coach meetings, for months as they took 1 1/2 years to give me LCWRA…..They kept trying to get me to go to a puzzle group. One day I barfed all over their carpet and I was on phone interviews after that….

  • Ranald
    Ranald Online Community Member Posts: 880 Championing

    That sounds a bit Daniel Blake. Not very dignified, eh ? I'm sorry to hear about your experiences at the Jobcentre.

    Some young laddie asking me to re-write a CV with 15 year employment gap, and possibly mock interviews etc. That would be a complete farce. We shall just have to wait and see what develops!

  • alexroda
    alexroda Online Community Member Posts: 127 Empowering

    More cuts!

    And there will be more as time goes by cause the economy will worsen


    I hope charities challenge ALL these changes proposed.


    Getting rid of ESA CB it’s a big loss for the welfare state.


    In other European countries if you’ve become too ill to work, and won’t be able to do so in the future, you are entitled to a significant life time pension till your death. 

    (If you improve and can work, you can do so, just tell them so).

    Their award is much more than a few hundred quid a month, it’s like a few thousand a month depending on your contributions.

    Regardless of savings etc

    IMO that’s the way to look at it. 


    Our benefit awards are a pittance.

    I hope these charities that fight in the name of the disabled community take this into account and legally fight to abolish this unemployment insurance, cause this change as the legal procedure is set up, can be challenged in court. Letting it go unchallenged would be a terrible mistake for the ill and disabled community.


    These charities want changes and higher benefits for everyone in need (which the different governments aren’t willing to give). However very little or no mention of this new proposal insurance employment from them. 


    This benefit ESA CB it’s something that we already have, it would be a major blow for our welfare state to lose it.


    Finally, having seen the inner workings, corruption at work from different Unions (which was a big blow for me), I have to question these charities motivations including Scope. Only time will tell if they are really on the disabled community side.

    Unfairness it’s always something worth fighting for regardless of the consequences.

  • Martinp
    Martinp Online Community Member Posts: 39 Empowering

    just seen the news, what a country we live in, hate this place. Can’t describe how I’m feeling, sick to my stomach.

  • luvpink
    luvpink Online Community Member Posts: 1,789 Championing

    Hi just make a new thread with whatever heading you wish related to your subject. X

  • Zipz
    Zipz Online Community Member Posts: 1,874 Pioneering
  • Zipz
    Zipz Online Community Member Posts: 1,874 Pioneering

    It's terrifying. I ask myself just how much harder they can hit us but I feel that they'll just continue this torture until a future government is prepared to raise taxes. The cuts so far will impact on the NHS and councils massively.

  • Ranald
    Ranald Online Community Member Posts: 880 Championing

    I've just been reading about a further £500m proposed cuts to Social Security, as there is still a £1.6bn 'shortfall', to meet the £5bn target. (Links don't work for me on here, sorry).

    https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2025/mar/25/chancellor-to-increase-defence-spending-by-22bn-to-secure-britains-future

  • PatrickLondon
    PatrickLondon Online Community Member Posts: 15 Contributor

    https://news.sky.com/story/chancellor-rachel-reeves-expected-to-announce-further-welfare-cuts-in-spring-statement-13335729

    "Ms Reeves is now expected to announce that universal credit (UC) incapacity benefits for new claimants, which were halved under the original plan, will also be frozen until 2030 rather than rising in line with inflation.
    As originally reported by The Times, there will also be a small reduction in the basic rate of UC in 2029, with the new measures expected to raise £500m."

  • Martinp
    Martinp Online Community Member Posts: 39 Empowering
    edited March 26

    I bet Kendall will be happy her colleague is making our lives even more miserable, they are deplorable excuses for humans

  • Ranald
    Ranald Online Community Member Posts: 880 Championing

    I really don't think they derive any enjoyment out of all this, really I don't. That doesn't mean I approve of hitting the disabled to meet targets.

  • Andi66
    Andi66 Online Community Member Posts: 873 Trailblazing

    Just seen on gmb news there cutting welfare some more today. There talking to the defense sectary .

  • Santosha12
    Santosha12 Online Community Member Posts: 711 Empowering

    I think it shows how they've got no moral fibre whatsoever. Sadly, I think we'll see that the back benchers have no backbone.

    I often think I've got little in the way of courage but I'm wrong, I have. In the 90s I stood up to the new CEO in the boardroom in front of c 30 employees after we'd seen dozens of colleagues frogmarched out of the building by security (40 years service some of them) treated disgustingly, all of us being given a 'pep talk' by the new 'top man' daring to lecture us about how it's necessary bla bla too and about our continued loyalty etc. The word loyalty set me off and I when asked if we had any questions I said loud and clear (I'm like a mouse ordinarily) I do, don't you think our loyalty might depend on how we see our colleagues being treated? He and the other board members were fuming with the finance man uttering some nonsensical answer. Was so pleased to see his ex wife completely wipe the floor with him in the High Courts for c £30million. Anyway, I digress sorry.. sorry, I just cannot abide people with absolutely no moral fibre and who try to ride roughshod over others.

    What we should ALL remember here is that dealing with the illnesses and disabilities that we have, day in, day out, takes courage, in buckets full. So we've still all got that no matter how vulnerable we are made to feel. We can use that to our advantage. I cannot go out to protest but as my lovely dad used to say, 'the pen is mightier than the sword'. I intend to use that ink well and profusely.

  • Ranald
    Ranald Online Community Member Posts: 880 Championing

    The OBR say the proposed cuts won't make up the £55bn. £1.6bn still to come, £500m from Social Security.

    https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2025/mar/25/chancellor-to-increase-defence-spending-by-22bn-to-secure-britains-future

  • Andi66
    Andi66 Online Community Member Posts: 873 Trailblazing

    She picks on the vunerable for her failings.

  • apples
    apples Online Community Member Posts: 488 Empowering

    There has to be numerous court cases surely? I wish I was savvy enough to take them to court, this is blatantly wrong on so many levels

    If they stopped the migrant hotels they’d save millions

  • Ranald
    Ranald Online Community Member Posts: 880 Championing

    Blaming desperate people isn't the answer. We mustn't go down that road. HMG have a series of choices, and kicking those at the bottom is one of them. This is on them.

  • Dianaf
    Dianaf Online Community Member Posts: 69 Empowering

    But labour want people to loose carers allowance also that's the whole point. Kill 2 benefits in one go. The cuts will have a domino effect and that's their nasty plan.