Green Paper Discussion (from 24th March, 2025)
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Is it confirmed they've taken that condition out of the assessment?
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Good morning everyone,
For anyone interested there’s a new video from The justice journals on YouTube regarding PIP and ASD . It’s only short but someone may find it interesting.
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What’s being taken out?
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same here
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The highest I got was 3 for bathing.
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Yes I try to escape the news by telling the algorithms please don't feed me content about UC, PIP, LCWRA, etc. But stuff still gets through and obviously, at the moment, when its the topic of national conversation it is everywhere. At least now I've found Scope I have somewhere to turn when the news crushes me back down to feeling the lowest.
The thing I just want is some stability. If they have to cut some stuff, do it, but then please try and commit to sticking to some kind of plan. Don't come back in a few years and start making radical changes that stir up new crisis's in the mind. It's too much to take.
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I had my last assessment about 2 years ago and she basically questioned me on only two point answers even though I said of go at least one 4. And I actually had an increase from lower to higher care awarded. It is as though this was a plan even then. All labour plans seem to follow the Tory plans as they have no ideas of their own.
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please 🙏
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morning Catherine,
Well the Labour Party especially Starmer are big advocates of the ECHR. I don’t think anyone goes against them usually so it would be very telling if they ignored any rulings now .
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Because if they change the goal post they can say you do not qualify for daily living at all , which saves them 76-108 quid a week, but it also saves them paying carers allowance . In effect they are saying in one assessment that someone is ill or disabled enough to be awarded pip, then they change the criteria which then makes them liars because people will be assessed as not ill or disabled enough . It has to be abolished and left alone . I got 10 points daily living when I was awarded , I couldn't get the extra 2 for my hearing loss because my test was still pending , my review is after March30th this year and I have two hearing aids for profound hearing loss. I nearly got knocked down by a car last week because I do not hear traffic , and I was today at my appointment told by my audiologist I need to be very aware and keep looking as I just don't hear well . I never got any 3 or 4 in my assessment . I don't know if I will this time unless the fact I don't hear traffic gets me a 4 . I hope I am awarded again and for 3 years or more as it will take me 2 years before i retire , being awarded pip for ten years would be nice as i'd get it with my state pension . I am a cancer survivor and still having follow up until 2028 and won't be discharged as it was a high grade tumour . I hope your husband will be okay.
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Announcement also filtering through this morning that 22 billion is now being allocated to Defence by Reeves.. here’s the thing. Much as I support Ukraine and know the defence budget needs upping in the face of world events Trump/ Putin… why is Starmer turned into Churchill?? We don’t even know what the outcome of any peace talks yet? Why British troops on the ground..? It’s like he’s narcissistically placing himself at the foreground whilst his own country goes to dross. It’s sickening to think that the benefit cuts are about one little man( and his gang).. and his egotism on the world stage.
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I believe past scores are irrelevant if the wording of the descriptors changes. Future descriptors could be worded differently, meaning previous assessment scores won’t guarantee future outcomes.
In my last review, four descriptors on the daily living PIP form applied to me, and I scored 4 points for each, totaling 16 points. However, there’s no guarantee the descriptors won’t change, and I could score 0 next time.
I don’t feel safe despite my past scores, instead, I feel deeply uncertain about qualifying in the future. I worry the assessment might be redesigned to ensure more people fail.
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what condition? (sorry, I’m getting lost and confused with all the posts 😅)
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Labour will get hammered in next years council elections.
When i heard they are planning on more welfare cuts today my jaw dropped!
i mean how, HOW low can this labour party go so low
I still beleive most of the cuts will get waterd down, i feel strongly that PIP points will get legally challenged as its major flaw as you can't discriminate who is most disabled everyones disiblities are diffrent and what they are trying to do is target those as a label.
They have no shame :-( all this worry and they just don't care.
Reeves won't last for long! and starmer is causing life long damaging affects to the Labour party.
Keep strong everyone! we will fight this.
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Hi all, is this where reaction to the spring statement will take place please? It kept saying 'page not found'
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Really struggling today with the news of benefit cuts but can't help to need to stay updated. I just want to curl in a ball and cry about it. I can't work at the moment so get PIP and UC LCWRA, I don't have 4 points on PIP for one descriptor so I'm losing that along with most likely LCWRA when that change comes. I have a lifelong condition. It's just not fair. They cut and cut at benefits, target the disabled and even proposing cutting free school meals to those who need it. In the same week, they get announced a pay rise.
There's times I feel on the verge of giving up because of these benefit cuts and today is one of those days for me. I've worked so hard in getting as stable as possible in a short time but now I'm just going back down again. What do the Government do about it? Further label their changes as "moral".
Are we allowed to email those in the Government's cabinet or other MPs in other areas to me? I'm trying to do everything I can, I've already emailed my MP, filled out the consultation, signed petitions for charities in support of us, I just feel like I should be doing so much more. It's really getting me down and today, it's really affecting me
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I believe you are right.
I bet there will a lot of general outrage after todays Spring budget.
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The face-to-face descriptor in the PIP assessment. You can currently score up-to 8 points for it for the most severely disabled, but there's talk they are going to remove the face-to-face disability entirely from the PIP assessment.
This is the condition for people who rarely leave their homes because they can't handle face-to-face interactions with people, or being around people in general, which is a problem I have with my autistic diagnosis. It has plagued my life and I don't know how anyone can say it isn't a disability when (in my case) I couldn't cope with schooling, developing friendships, working around others, being around others, etc. It has literally destroyed any hope of a normal life and I've tried all the counselling, medication, primary care nursing, forced social situations, etc.
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Very true, I wouldn't be able to pay even water rates who can't put me on a meter because of my health. I think that's classed as a priority bill.
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Link to live reporting. If anyone can bear it.
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