Green Paper Discussion (from 24th March, 2025)
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I feel the same Catherine. I can't stop shaking and it feels like I have a massive heavy rock in my chest and can't think straight. We just have to hope there's a massive backlash so they are forced to rethink. Even having trouble typing. Please take care xx
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can someone from scope please explain this further please . I just read on benefits and work that they’re putting are putting the green paper to the vote so once it passes it is an act of parliament meaning courts cannot intervene. Surely this can’t be correct as the ECHR seems to interfere in most of acts of discrimination.
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Like you,I am really struggling today and have gone right back to square one after working so hard to get myself together. The only way to do this is with stability and as much peace as possible. At the same time, today is the last session with my trauma therapist as it's from a charity and they have lost their funding. It feels like I am right on a knife's edge and I can't stop shaking. My heart goes out to you and everyone else suffering so greatly because of this. My mind is shutting down, but please take care x
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Taken from my fb feed, made me smile especially today as I won’t can’t watch
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I hope they don't take it out as it is mine too.
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Hi @secretsquirrel1 we're in a period of consultation until 30th June 2025 allowing us an opportunity to push back on the initial release. I've added a link which might be helpful explaining the process - Pathways to Work: Reforming Benefits and Support to Get Britain Working Green Paper - GOV.UK
I believe we're due some more news today so we'll try to share as swiftly as we can.
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I’m sure the government have no intention of listening to us that’s why the consultation isn’t a full one . Our only hope is/was legal action. Is there nothing in law that protects us ?
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Trumpet is withdrawing his country's interests in Europe, and there is a good argument for increasing 'defence' spending.
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Your a diamond @Holly_Scope .
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I'm not from Scope, but what you have read is what I understand. Courts are there to make rulings on the law as it exists. It does get complicated when two laws are seen to be in conflict with one another. So in this case, I imagine any challenges will be on the grounds that the new law is in direct conflict with our basic human rights outlined in another law.
This Act of Parliament will need to be passed in both houses. The Lords acts as the revising chamber and will insist on changes before they will vote the proposals into law. Because these specific proposals were not in the Labour manifesto, the Lords have space to make life difficult for the government.
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@secretsquirrel1 Equality Act, Human Rights Treaty. The United Nations also frequently chime in with these changes
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@mawempathy New laws also need Royal Assent if I'm correct?
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Watching Bbc2 politics live just showed some protestors next to Downing Street.
She's on her way to the Commons now for PMQs at midday then statement at 1230.
What has this country come to.
I don't drink but got 2 cans of cider in cupboard for visitors, but as I don't have any I'm gonna stick them in the fridge 🤨🙄😪
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Yes, but that's just a guaranteed rubber stamping exercise.
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Feeling decidedly queezy. Although quite naturally our views differ we much remain united here, in completing the consultation, and in other activities. Reading "The I", this comment troubled me because it enables the Government to divide, rule, and rob:
"Gillian Oliver, 47, who has severe arthritis and mental health issues, receives PIP and universal credit. She told The i Paper she relies on these benefits to survive.
She said that if any benefits are cut or taken away from people in genuine need like her, it will “destroy them” as she relies on this money to survive.
“Any cuts to benefits announced in the Spring Statement will have a terrible impact and be brutal and absolutely destroy people like me,” she said.
There are a lot of people on benefits who shouldn’t be as they are capable of working, so medical professionals should definitely be tougher on them.
“But genuine people like me are going to suffer. We’re not going to be able to manage and food banks will be overwhelmed and there won’t be enough to go round.”
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oh thank you 🙏 . Does this mean if/ when the law passes In parliament if it’s found to contravene the equality laws we can still take this to court or ECHR ?
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Sorry that’s completely my fault — I mean component not condition. I wasn’t fully awake yet when I wrote that 😅
(I love your username, btw!)
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it’s all a big game to these vile people, Reeves smiling
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Discussing on radio 2 jeremy vine on right now
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thank you for clarifying ☺️
and thank you, my cat rules my life so I figured it only right that my username is ruled by them, too 😹1
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