Green Paper Discussion (from 24th March, 2025)
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😂😂. So we have time for activists to get a case together then ? I literally thought today it was going to be pushed straight though . This is terrifying as I’m literally in bed most of the time with pain and fatigue which are protected by law as a disability. I really hope real Labour MPs vote against this to save the party . I did listen to Jeremy Corbyn who said labour MPs have started to talk to him again and are not happy
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I get ttlhat, but according to Gemini AI it is possible under certain circumstances. I also understand they are not even consulting on the changes to the WCA and not sure about the pip changes (some reports state they are and others state they arent)
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Correct they are excluding WCA changes from consultation.
Correct PIP changes are unknown as they are being reviewed as stated in the green paper.
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Yes there's time. They can't ram this bill through in a matter of days. The gov themselves have announced a consultation process that runs until the end of June before anything else happens in regards to steps in the process. And there are loads more steps ahead once we're beyond June.
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Hi all. Just wanted to add this as I've seen a few comments about what action Charities are taking. We at Scope very much are actively campaigning. We've also had key leaders speaking out in the media via interviews etc. for example - I'm the chair of disability charity Scope and I may be asked to step down for what I'm about to say | The Standard. 💛
I've added a few links below join Scope in pushing back against these cuts. Here are some of the ways you can get involved:
- Add your name to our petition
- Invite your MP to our parliamentary event
- Respond to the consultation by 30 June 2025.
We will try to keep you as appraised as we're able to. We've got this together. ☺️
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Hope this is OK, copy pasted conclusion from AI, about the role of ECHR and the potential consequences for uk law
In Conclusion:
Yes, an ECtHR judgment finding that a new UK law violates the European Convention on Human Rights can indeed lead to the law being overturned or amended. It exerts significant legal and political pressure on the UK government to take action to ensure compliance with its international human rights obligations. The Human Rights Act 1998 further strengthens the impact of these judgments within the UK legal system.
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What was said pls anyone I couldn't watch
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Yes UK courts have to take into account any ECHR rulings. We're signed up to that. But ECHR judgements can't directly overturn UK law, they can only challenge law(s) on human rights grounds. The ultimate arbiter of UK law is UK judges who take into account any ECHR rulings as part of their judgements.
We're really getting into the weeds on this one. To say this is complicated would be a massive understatement. 😂
What should allow you to rest easier is knowing there are many good people who will be using every tool available to them to fight on our behalf.
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Well....again , we've heard the same rhetoric......it's all about 'working people', and getting ('forcing') disabled and vulnerable people into 'work'.
I must say she has 'blundered' her way through this statement...stuttering and stammering, because she knows she's completely inept and incompetent,
Special thanks though to Rachel Maskell , Labour MP ,who just 'spoke up for us'.
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🙏 thank you
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Overall, it is estimated that in 2029/30 there will be 3.2 million families – some current recipients and some future recipients - who will financially lose as a result of this package, with an average loss of £1,720 per year compared to inflation. There are also estimated to be 3.8 million families - some current recipients and some future recipients - who will financially gain from this package, with an average gain of £420 per year compared to inflation
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thank you and fingers crossed 🤞
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it was online on the benefits and work website. I don’t know how to copy and paste but it basically said they’re putting it to the vote to try and get past the courts. But if you read my reply from mawempathy above and William they both state the echr does have power if it’s against our legal rights. Sorry to worry you Catherine x
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who will financially gain from this package, with an average gain of £420 per year compared to inflationcan someone explain who could be better off by £420 a year? I just can’t work it out or who are thinking about?
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Reeves just said "just because people are disabled doesn't mean they can't work", this was in rely to the Labour mp from Bradford who challenged her about the harm of 'cuts' to the most vulnerable.
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So if you have pip over the date due to come into effect will you be moved over ?
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But they just done investigation on dwp ?? Haven't heard outcome from that
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No I appreciate you replying did ant mps say anything was it thier time to say anything sorry to ask so many questions
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you fail to mention the creation of the unemployment insurance, which will substitute ESA CB. Which means that those receiving it will lose £5000 a year plus lose their NI contributions towards a future pension
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