Spring Statement Discussion (link to documents here)

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  • Tonypiano777
    Tonypiano777 Online Community Member Posts: 55 Empowering
    edited March 28

    @YogiBear i don’t know what will happen either, but seems to me (the way these threads have been going)) that these benefits being discussed (ESA-CB/support group) will be on the back burner. (Just my thoughts)


    cheers 💤💤💤

  • olivia1
    olivia1 Online Community Member Posts: 2 Listener

    Thank you so much for your help and taking time to reply, I'll give them a call

  • Zipz
    Zipz Online Community Member Posts: 1,882 Pioneering

    I wish we could have a forum area dedicated to the CB-ESA/ JSA pr

  • Andi66
    Andi66 Online Community Member Posts: 878 Trailblazing
    edited March 28

    On one of posts I said about the treasury mp Darren Jones comparing cuts to his children pocket money being taken away. Rachel reeves did the same saying a 16 year old who has pocket money cut can do a paper round to make some money unbelievable out of touch deluded woman.

    With Richard tice vile comment we should email him and tell him how hard it is, and what effect it will have on us. While they get their over 93 thousand next year. Also Darren Jones was quizzed by Victoria Derbyshire about the wording in pip, and he blamed it on clinicians, she said no it was written by you . He was all flustered serves him right

  • luvpink
    luvpink Online Community Member Posts: 1,814 Championing
  • luvpink
    luvpink Online Community Member Posts: 1,814 Championing
    edited March 28

    I am on CB esa and mine has always been means tested.

    I get a modest private pension and the amount of my esa entitlement is because of that.

    I am not confused about what I get

  • Zipz
    Zipz Online Community Member Posts: 1,882 Pioneering

    @luvpink I think there is a point at which CB-ESA is reduced by income from private pensions. However, your savings and other assets are not means-tested.

  • PollyPick
    PollyPick Online Community Member Posts: 37 Contributor
    edited March 29

    Hi I was listening and watching our gracious Government ripping away our way of life without a thought to how we feel - to these people we are NOTHING absolutely NOTHING! we are their bread and butter but do they care NO! Yet I still wonder WHY we are sitting here just 'bitching and moaning' when it's time to bring the country to a grinding HALT, just as we did decades ago or have we really lost our good 'ol' English backbone and b…s! We've been browbeaten far too long watching and told 'we cannot say this or that because it's against human rights' -BUT my dear friends WHAT ABOUT OUR RIGHTS as natives to these islands from generation to generation - I've been called just about much of everything because I will tell it 'as it really is' and we are a Nation of idiots!!!🤪 taken over by outsiders who really have no rights at all BUT if you want to carry on just 'bitching and moaning' getting nowhere fast then go for it but I give you fair warning 'your off springs will curse you' for not putting up a real fight to retain OUR dignity and most of all OUR country and I speak of the true original white race of these islands whose generations have given blood and guts for YOU to be here today!!!

  • Stellar
    Stellar Online Community Member Posts: 258 Empowering

    Some good news regarding the opposition to Tory/Labour benefit cuts democide. Young people know what to do.

    "The Crips Against Cuts (CAC) collective has grown in just a few weeks from a single disabled campaigner who felt abandoned by charities and politicians, to organising actions in more than 20 towns and cities across Britain last Saturday.

    Actions were organised across England, Scotland and Wales, including Bristol, Edinburgh, Glasgow, Newcastle, Hull, Darlington, Leeds, Sheffield, London, Brighton, Portsmouth, Truro, Exeter, Bournemouth, Coventry, Cambridge, Thanet, Nottingham, Birmingham, Liverpool and Manchester.

    CAC believes there were about 500 disabled people and allies at Saturday’s action in central London, on the South Bank, near London Eye and County Hall, and about 200 in most of the actions in the larger cities."

    Forgotten and abandoned, young disabled people are fighting back against cuts through a new collective – Disability News Service

  • alexroda
    alexroda Online Community Member Posts: 143 Empowering

    I’ve read the impact assessment published on Wednesday and there is no mention or impact assessment of the proposed changes regarding the merging of ESA CB & JSA CB into the new unemployment insurance

    So either they are dropping it, or if it’s still going ahead, it can be challenged as no impact assessment has been published, when there should have been one.

    I also could not see an impact assessment for those losing the health element of UC once they scrap the WCA and don’t qualify to PIP.

    Again, I hope someone in legal charities will pick it up when they challenge all these proposals.

  • luvpink
    luvpink Online Community Member Posts: 1,814 Championing
  • alexroda
    alexroda Online Community Member Posts: 143 Empowering

    also I can’t see an impact assessment for those young people losing PIP between the ages 18-22

  • anon85
    anon85 Online Community Member Posts: 3 Listener

    Hello, I'm new here but I've been following various threads for the past week now after the welfare cuts were announced. Like many of you I am worried sick about all that is going on.

    I have had significant trauma in my life, including gang rape, being trafficked, a very abusive relationship, death of both parents ( I've just turned 40 ) one under horrendous circumstances where her body wasn't found for 5 weeks. I've brought my child up mostly on my own, I home school her as she has also suffered significant trauma. I was in the crown court for over 3 years against my ex which was horrific, the list goes on.

    Basically a result of all the trauma is that it's had a significant impact on my health. I've been diagnosed with complex PTSD, clinical depression, anxiety disorder, fibromyalgia, chronic IBS amongst other things.

    I'm under the care of a mental health team, I see my mh nurse regularly as well as my physchitrist. My daughter is also in therapy.

    I was awarded LCWRA at the beginning of 2023, and PIP last July.

    I scored 4 points on one of the daily living categories.

    Basically I am so worried that under the new laws that they're trying to pass, I'll not be eligible given my conditions, circumstances etc...

    My PIP is awarded until 2027.

    I'm scared of them taking away the LCWRA. I have been no good since these changes were announced.

    I'm hoping some of you good people could share some of your insights and own opinions regarding my circumstances, and what you think the new changes could mean to me? Will I be affected, will I be made to look for work, will my sickness benefits be removed?

    I'm so frightened. I truly don't know how these people sleep at night.

  • Tonypiano777
    Tonypiano777 Online Community Member Posts: 55 Empowering
    edited March 28

    Indeed @luvpink the pension will Make a difference, thus :

    “Contributory ESA is not means-tested. This means whether you can get it and how much you get, is not affected by your income, savings, or investments (but it may be affected by certain pension payments).

    So ESA in It’s own context isn’t means tested, but what pension amount you have could affect the savings you have (or can have)

    You’re not confused about it, but you didn’t mention your pension in your first post - which would cause ambiguity with those people who only get ESA-CB (and Pip lower rate mobility in my case).

    (did you sleep well @YogiBear !?)

    Edit: It can be all very confusing as most searches on google bring up ESA-IR. A bit More clarity is needed IMO. Or JUSTESA” alone in searches - which can leave one guessing what benefits they’re on.

    Cheers.

  • YogiBear
    YogiBear Online Community Member Posts: 141 Empowering

    Let's hope so. It's a very unsettling time for everyone.

  • alexroda
    alexroda Online Community Member Posts: 143 Empowering

    from what you are saying, the only change I can see is that your uc health too up will be frozen till 2029

    Regarding if you’ll need to look for work at the moment who will be it’s unclear. Also the impact assessment says:

    Furthermore, the analysis does not take into account new protections for those with
    severe lifelong conditions that the government intends to bring forward.

    I hope this helps to put your mind at rest

  • Sivam
    Sivam Online Community Member Posts: 15 Listener

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