Spring Statement Discussion (link to documents here)
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@YogiBear i don’t know what will happen either, but seems to me (the way these threads have been going)) that these benefits being discussed (ESA-CB/support group) will be on the back burner. (Just my thoughts)
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Thank you so much for your help and taking time to reply, I'll give them a call
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I wish we could have a forum area dedicated to the CB-ESA/ JSA pr
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On one of posts I said about the treasury mp Darren Jones comparing cuts to his children pocket money being taken away. Rachel reeves did the same saying a 16 year old who has pocket money cut can do a paper round to make some money unbelievable out of touch deluded woman.
With Richard tice vile comment we should email him and tell him how hard it is, and what effect it will have on us. While they get their over 93 thousand next year. Also Darren Jones was quizzed by Victoria Derbyshire about the wording in pip, and he blamed it on clinicians, she said no it was written by you . He was all flustered serves him right
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So am I and mine is means tested.
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I am on CB esa and mine has always been means tested.
I get a modest private pension and the amount of my esa entitlement is because of that.
I am not confused about what I get
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Albus this needs to shown to mps , others
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Hi I was listening and watching our gracious Government ripping away our way of life without a thought to how we feel - to these people we are NOTHING absolutely NOTHING! we are their bread and butter but do they care NO! Yet I still wonder WHY we are sitting here just 'bitching and moaning' when it's time to bring the country to a grinding HALT, just as we did decades ago or have we really lost our good 'ol' English backbone and b…s! We've been browbeaten far too long watching and told 'we cannot say this or that because it's against human rights' -BUT my dear friends WHAT ABOUT OUR RIGHTS as natives to these islands from generation to generation - I've been called just about much of everything because I will tell it 'as it really is' and we are a Nation of idiots!!!🤪 taken over by outsiders who really have no rights at all BUT if you want to carry on just 'bitching and moaning' getting nowhere fast then go for it but I give you fair warning 'your off springs will curse you' for not putting up a real fight to retain OUR dignity and most of all OUR country and I speak of the true original white race of these islands whose generations have given blood and guts for YOU to be here today!!!
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Some good news regarding the opposition to Tory/Labour benefit cuts democide. Young people know what to do.
"The Crips Against Cuts (CAC) collective has grown in just a few weeks from a single disabled campaigner who felt abandoned by charities and politicians, to organising actions in more than 20 towns and cities across Britain last Saturday.
Actions were organised across England, Scotland and Wales, including Bristol, Edinburgh, Glasgow, Newcastle, Hull, Darlington, Leeds, Sheffield, London, Brighton, Portsmouth, Truro, Exeter, Bournemouth, Coventry, Cambridge, Thanet, Nottingham, Birmingham, Liverpool and Manchester.
CAC believes there were about 500 disabled people and allies at Saturday’s action in central London, on the South Bank, near London Eye and County Hall, and about 200 in most of the actions in the larger cities."
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It's because of the private pension. x
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Yes I know.
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Hello, I'm new here but I've been following various threads for the past week now after the welfare cuts were announced. Like many of you I am worried sick about all that is going on.
I have had significant trauma in my life, including gang rape, being trafficked, a very abusive relationship, death of both parents ( I've just turned 40 ) one under horrendous circumstances where her body wasn't found for 5 weeks. I've brought my child up mostly on my own, I home school her as she has also suffered significant trauma. I was in the crown court for over 3 years against my ex which was horrific, the list goes on.
Basically a result of all the trauma is that it's had a significant impact on my health. I've been diagnosed with complex PTSD, clinical depression, anxiety disorder, fibromyalgia, chronic IBS amongst other things.
I'm under the care of a mental health team, I see my mh nurse regularly as well as my physchitrist. My daughter is also in therapy.
I was awarded LCWRA at the beginning of 2023, and PIP last July.
I scored 4 points on one of the daily living categories.
Basically I am so worried that under the new laws that they're trying to pass, I'll not be eligible given my conditions, circumstances etc...
My PIP is awarded until 2027.
I'm scared of them taking away the LCWRA. I have been no good since these changes were announced.
I'm hoping some of you good people could share some of your insights and own opinions regarding my circumstances, and what you think the new changes could mean to me? Will I be affected, will I be made to look for work, will my sickness benefits be removed?
I'm so frightened. I truly don't know how these people sleep at night.
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Indeed @luvpink the pension will Make a difference, thus :
“Contributory ESA is not means-tested. This means whether you can get it and how much you get, is not affected by your income, savings, or investments (but it may be affected by certain pension payments).
So ESA in It’s own context isn’t means tested, but what pension amount you have could affect the savings you have (or can have)You’re not confused about it, but you didn’t mention your pension in your first post - which would cause ambiguity with those people who only get ESA-CB (and Pip lower rate mobility in my case).
(did you sleep well @YogiBear !?)Edit: It can be all very confusing as most searches on google bring up ESA-IR. A bit More clarity is needed IMO. Or JUST “ESA” alone in searches - which can leave one guessing what benefits they’re on.
Cheers.
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Let's hope so. It's a very unsettling time for everyone.
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Jeremy Corbyn has a website and gaining recruits to form a real Labour Party. Look up Jeremy Corbyn on Facebook.
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Fake propaganda like this in papers and TV show is what makes people against welfare. It is deliberate. THESE ARE FAKE NUMBERS. These number haven't even happened yet and they are trying to get public angry on disabled people. I wouldn't be surprised if they money that is saved is going into politicians BACK POCKETS! Don't be surprised if that's true at all.
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ThThank you. So at the moment there is no news of what protection will be put in place for those with lifelong conditions, is that correct?
And from what I've stated, and as far as you can see from that, you think the only changes to affect me will be the frozen payments?
I expect to be reassessed before summer 2027 for PIP. Given that I scored 4 points in one of the daily living categories, and since my conditions haven't changed, if anything they've gotten worse, do you think I'd qualify again for PIP?
ThThank you.
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I'm half expecting a rise in the points needed for Enhanced PIP - To reduce the number of claimants at a higher level….I wouldn't put it past labour to do that….
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I'm beyond worried...which is exacerbating my conditions massively.
I decided to email my local MP to request she oppose this disasterous and deadly decision to go after disabled people in this manner ...however..after checking her 'stance' on the proposed benefit cuts...she is in favour of them...therefore there is no point in emailing to request her support...as it clearly won't be given!
They have got all of their figures wrong in any case!...the OBR have disputed that the disability cuts labour propose...will make the savings that labour claim!
Labour want to get people back into work who are in receipt of PIP...do labour not realise that many people who are currently in receipt if PIP are actually already WORKING!...(which is permitted)! ...so are they just assuming that every person who is in receipt of PIP is not working!!... are they basing their figures on this?....
Labour have targeted Disability Benefits… NOT with the purppse of getting people back into employment...as many are already in employment who are able to work with the aid of PIP....
It is purely a money saving exercise...in which they haven't even got the correct figures to work from themselves (re OBR information)…if you base decisions on the wrong information...which is not fact or a true account...then it stands to reason...the wrong decision will be made.
The 4 points on any 1 task is a totally inappropriate marker for someone being able to qualify for PIP....and if they don't score 4 points...then they are deemed fit to work is just madness!...Just because someone can wipe their own backside/ lift a spoon to their mouth to feed themselves/wash the upper part of their body does NOT directly correlate to them being able to hold down a job repeatedly for a number of set hours every day...therefore it can and should NOT be used as a direct comparisson as it is is anything 'but' . It is as ludicrous as saying if someone can swim 10 meters...then they are capable of swimming The Channel!!!!
....yes...you can possibly swim in the general term...but just because you can 'swim' does not mean you are able to swim huge distances…over an alotted timescale every day!!!.....however this seems to be the stance Labour have taken......in their proposed future assessments to ascertain if people will quality for PIP!
The changes Labour are proposing for the future ...make it necessary for a claimant of PIP to have an actual Carer...before they would be eligible to qualify...under the 4 point rule.
Personal Independent Payment is indeed that....the clue is in the title!....Personal Independence!....it helps people live as independent life as possible...by enabling them to be as INDEPENDENT as possible.....with the help of aids and adaptations....not by taking away what little self respect and privacy they have.... by forcing them to go down the care route in order to qualify. This is a huge step backwards... people will feel useless....having what little independence and privacy taken away along with still having to cope with their disabiility...resulting in more mental health problems... all of this will only result in increased costs and strain put onto an already failing NHS and Care System.....Disability cuts are DEFINITELY NOT the answer Chancellor...and will only exacerbate the NHS and care services ten fold....so be careful what you wish for....because cutting disability benefits will NOT save the economy....it will be the catalyst that plunges it further into debt.…as well as causing needless deaths as people stuggle to live without any support....until they can struggle no more. This labour government will have blood on their hands if they are allowed to bring these proposed cuts into effect.
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