Green Paper Discussion (from 24th March, 2025)

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"some disabilities being more equal than others"

This is how the government is framing it…😟

I dont think 18 year old work coaches is the best idea of deciding eligibility. You will easily get what happens now with the wider ignorant public, making decisions based on emotions and hear say.

The existence of the WCA has merits, it can recognise and support people who have been let down by the NHS. The problem with the WCA really is the abusive way it has been implemented by successive governments in the aim of trying to use it as a tool for ideological purposes. Even with all that manipulation it has provided protection for people which has led to the government of taking the nuclear option of removing the entire sickness safety net. With proper fair meaningful descriptors along side a regulation 35, and without the attitude of we must reassess frequently it serves a purpose, but for people who have managed to get a diagnosis from the NHS that makes it clear in itself there would be challenges working the WCA could be bypassed.

PIP I expect is heading in the DLA direction where the focus will be on diagnosis instead of functional problems, I expect all aid descriptors will be removed completely eventually and for those needs it will revert to DLA style of needing a carer to qualify. When instead they needed to ease the requirements for mobility, and perhaps add a lower rate daily living for 4 points. They have gone completely in the wrong direction, because of an ignorant population and ideologically drive in the country to not properly support people, the amount of comments I find on social media where people are only thinking about themselves is unreal, and I think the catalyst for this change was brexit. Once brexit was enacted, the anti benefit and anti immigration movements sky rocketed.

It doesnt take much reading of comment sections and listening to LBC calls to realise how ignorant the population has become, every person claiming to know a dozen fraudsters, PIP cars and so on, it has become fashionable to lie about it now as if its all a game. These people remain ignorant as although they primarily complaining about mental health and PIP cars, they not realising the 4 point change is primarily targeting daily living physical conditions when someone has issues doing multiple daily tasks (typically multiple adaptation descriptors). Nothing to do with what they moaning about, yet they support it blindly. The presenters at LBC are very good at what they do, I have listened to multiple calls where they managed to get the caller admit they making it all up. That takes some doing.

watch from 02:55 till 04:05

Lies lies and more lies and no one is doing anything about it. Then they accuse Donald Trump for lying. Well these lot are on equal footing to him

I agree with you with most things.

I don't think age matters as long as the right training is provided, and how do we know the age of current WCA staff, they could also be 18. How do you know the next batch of staff won't be outsourced to a company for cheap? Why are these unknown people determining who is disabled and who is not?

The WCA might have some merit but there are a lot of problems with it, the main being it does not cover all disabilities. Now they are going to make it harder and technically remove LCWRA.

Yes, the propaganda has been around a very long time about people conning the system and the gov having no money because of it, the gov have no problem finding the money when they need to. It is a lie, someone is probably getting rich off these reforms that is why it is happening. If they wanted to tackle fraud claims they only had to make the descriptors tougher, why are they reducing the money, it doesn't make sense. They are using the propaganda to take from the disabled that is what it is about.

They can't remove descriptors from PIP or LCWRA because what will follow will be unthinkable. We will be third world. Millions will be affected and millions more in the future. Disability is only going to rise. The only thing they can do if they do not want to invest in the wider society is fund welfare more. I think the gov is making a big mistake with current reforms, they will have to reconsider the reforms otherwise I don't think anything good will come of it.

Now every news article is about PIP because of Labour meaning more people will apply for it.

Does anyone know if there is the new PIP form out to have a look at ? I read somewhere there was one leaked.

How can they when they arent medically qualified