Green Paper Discussion (from 24th March, 2025)
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That's a good idea I am actually lucky my pip till 2030 but anything can change I've been email everyone I'm worried about lwcra no way could I work and keep a job
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Mine was sent in July 2024 due to run out March 2025 maybe it was earlier than July? Anyways recieved same txt and then 6 weeks later got paper based so good your putting yours in now
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OOh OK how can this be going forward if not passed hope your mum well and home
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May I ask what is extra bedroom rate pls I pay bedroom tax I'm still on legacy
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I get pip as well
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Oh apologies , I thought you were in the same boat as me .... CBESA/NEW STYLE....with LCWRA 😌....because wca won't be scrapped till 2028 my thinking is they would use that until pip takes over then we will all be at the mercy of the new pip criteria , god knows what will happen 🤦
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Mines in, mine ran out March this year but as they haven’t got round to assessing me it’s been extended until March next year, so any day I could have the assessment
Did you get re-rewarded pip on paper based assessment
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What does re rewarded mean I got same as last time last one was 2021 got paper based and this one 2025 oh yes re rewarded till 2030 I literally write everything I don't hold back
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It's awful absolutely awful that we have to second guess what your saying makes sense but who knows with them this is psychological torture hope your mum home and resting
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And Liz Kendall wants to reform Sick Notes also, Labour want to make it impossible to claim any form of incapacity orientated benefits.
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And seems can push through with primary legislation and the Tory leader said her party will help push it through I think it's about accepting it I'm trying to think how the hell to survive
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That's why took over NHS and taken well was it ever tories plans it was just the plan all along thier just going through the motions pretending
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If they have so much power why are they waiting until 2028/9 , I wouldn't be surprised if all their plans are thrown out with them , I mean who will support the millions who lose their homes lose their health lose their carers ? I think its a matter of 'don't look there , look here ' while we are all worrying sick about their proposals , something more sinister is going on.
Just my thoughts of course I am just voicing them .
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When I first applied for PIP, I had two F2F assessments because apparently the assessor did not ask me enough questions during the 2 hour assessment. The second assessor only took half the time. DWP claimed they had no report from the first assessor so I did an SAR. Anyway, my claim eventually went to Tribunal. Their decision and that of the two assessors were all different, some giving me points in one place where others didn't. I even had enhanced from one assessor and not even enough points for standard by another. Thankfully Tribunal gave me enhanced on both. But it really highlighted how the system is not a good one because despite them supposedly following certain 'rules', it ends up just coming down to personal opinion and whether the assessor likes you or not.
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Hi @Catherine21,
I hear you, truly. Your words echo the fear, anger, and exhaustion many of us feel right now. It does feel so cruel and overwhelming, like we’ve been dehumanised and pushed to the brink, simply for needing support to live with dignity and uphold our rights . You’re right ….it takes unimaginable strength just to exist under the pressure we’ve been put under by these senseless Green paper proposals by the liebour crew.
Please know you’re not alone. I’m so so scared too, we all are, but like I said before, fear doesn’t mean silence due to losing hope .
As many have said on this thread-open and closed, this is exactly why the Government has been hyping these cuts since taking office in July 24 and then rushing to publish this proposal -to create fear and silence us.
If anything, it means we must speak even louder. This is why it’s so important that we all respond & oppose the Green Paper consultation individually - not just rely on charities &organisations to speak on our behalf. Every single response matters. That’s how we turn fear into action. That’s how we show them we’re watching, we’re resisting, and we won’t go quietly.
You’re absolutely right that time is short, and legal processes are slow. But they are not unstoppable. Public opposition on this scale, especially if it’s coming directly from disabled people ourselves, will be impossible to ignore forever. There are 16 million disabled people in this country…we are not a minority. And there is power in our collective voice.
Like they say on planes, put your own mask on first. That means making your voice heard in the consultation. Then support the charities and allies who are ready to take the fight further. It starts with us.
Catherine,You’ve already shown so much strength by writing how you feel. Please keep going. Keep speaking.Lets hold on to that glimmer of hope through justice!☀️
Best Wishes!
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I just follow this lady called wheelieMSA she's come back from a meeting and read solicitor notes thier pushing through primary legislation can't be challenged and the head of tories said on interview she will be helping labour push through this is all been preplanned the lady said contact echr as dwp have no duty of care for us I think this is the point to accept may sound down beaten but seems they covered everything no loopholes
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I agree when thier silent it's not good
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We've been through this over and over and over again, if you can't work, you can't work.
There is no magic wand, no tooth fairy and no man in the moon, absolutely nothing can change that, if you legitimately, genuinely, medically verifiably can't work you can't work.
If Labour know that and the Tories which they do then what is all of this about? It's about money and Kendall/Starmer have also not ruled out making more cuts to welfare.
By linking PIP assessments to LCWRA and abolishing WCA people are going to lose LCWRA, the people who will lose the LCWRA will be expected to partake in training or job searching for a non-existent job which even if it existed you won't get when an employer would rather hire someone fit and able.
It sounds to me that all of these plans are done WITH THE INTENTION to cause harm and suffering. Labour's frontbench better have great handwash to wash all the blood off of their hands.
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I don't care what they think they are pushing through , they are putting human beings in danger and causing hardship , so something will be done . I said before they only have until 2029 and then another government will be in , most of their proposals are not effective until 2028/9 . They are demons and something is seriously not right with starmer, and a lot of them . All demons and I am not joking .
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We don't know, what I'm saying is when they merge LCWRA and PIP what will the WCA look like. Will it be the same or will they remove things so it will be harder for mental health claimants. That is what I won't to know. They don't provide that info in green paper, they only say you need 4 point in one descriptor in daily living. They have not told us how they are going to reduce 400,000 plus people from our money and they want to target mental health but how is what I want to know.
If they do not include mental health criteria or even reduce it or tell the WCA people to refuse mental health applicants then that will be against the law and that would be a problem for them won't it.
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