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  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Online Community Member Posts: 2,052 Championing

    Hi everyone,

    Can either scope or someone who has seen the latest dwp pip questionnaire explain what it’s about please. I had heard that it was asking pip claimants what they spend their pip on . I have just watched the justice journals ( not a good idea ) and she showed the very long questionnaire which mentions vouchers and the catalogue idea. Plus one off payments. Basically the same as the Tory green paper. I thought Kendall had ruled out vouchers etc ?

  • Catherine21
    Catherine21 Online Community Member Posts: 9,583 Championing

    Feel so depressed even reading they wnat people to downsize so I reckon that be some point in future if that's the case pay me for all the money I spent on my home since they come in to power it's been so oppressive not one day of peace so fed up

  • Catherine21
    Catherine21 Online Community Member Posts: 9,583 Championing

    No don't watch her she's scare mongering if you get letter sent out randomly throw it in the bin it's voluntary that woman is to much it's her job now

  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Online Community Member Posts: 2,052 Championing

    I know Catherine. Ppl are making a living out of this . I’m just wondering if the form she read out is the present form or the old Tory one as it seems to be the same. I’m sure Kendall ruled out vouchers and catalogues in the statement if I remember correctly

  • jul1aorways
    jul1aorways Online Community Member Posts: 397 Pioneering
    edited April 2025

    @sarah_lea12

    After these proposed cuts I no longer have any time for politicians of any party, they are all as rotten as each other and as you say corrupt.

    Instead I will spoil my ballot so it is counted, but not as a vote for ANY of THEM!!😡

  • sarah_lea12
    sarah_lea12 Online Community Member Posts: 442 Empowering
  • jul1aorways
    jul1aorways Online Community Member Posts: 397 Pioneering

    Hi @mrsBB

    Good for you.👌I'm going to spoil my vote from now on, myself. I'm like you, I've completely lost faith in the political system. I've only just made that decision though. The proposed cuts made up my mind.

    At least that vote will be counted but not for ANY PARTY!! I think that it's much better than not voting, as they just robs you of your voice altogether, as far as I'm concerned.

    It's not a small meaningless act as your "defaced" paper will be counted with all the other spoilt ballots in your constituency.

    You're lucky though to have a Local Election in your constituency, we don't have one and others have been complaining on here that they can't vote either. 😡

  • worried33
    worried33 Online Community Member Posts: 1,020 Championing

    Had a conversation with someone who previously had bitterness towards me.
    Initially they were pro these cuts, but I found out they had been turned down for PIP, as well as other people related to them, so that was the cause of the bitterness. They pretty much now understand the fact all were turned down is proof its not easy to get. They was shocked I might be affected. They had made the assumption based on Labour's lies it would just be people with minor conditions or fraudsters. In Timms words "low level disabilities".

    I also have emailed Timms about that, dont expect a reply, l but reminded him that disability doesnt start at PIP eligibility, the barrier to qualifying is really high so anyone even on the min 8 points, even if its all 2 pointers will already be severely disabled. Likewise there will be people with severe mobility issues who dont meet the mobility criteria.

  • jul1aorways
    jul1aorways Online Community Member Posts: 397 Pioneering

    They are highly entitled, sadistic sociopaths. 😤

  • Martinp
    Martinp Online Community Member Posts: 249 Empowering

    There is no question 11 in that survey they are sending people, it’s full of disgusting pictures of disabled people and cash and the grammar is bad too. Question 11 appears to be about descriptors but there is no question just bullet points.
    They are definitely going down the medical evidence being required for a successful claim, which in itself is stupid as we all have to send in medical evidence now. Also it appears that our local councils will be in charge of the vouchers and giving out money when they receive a receipt from us for a service but we will have to pay up front and probably have to get permission first, it’s disgusting, what is the point of existing like this.

  • Amaya_Ringo
    Amaya_Ringo Online Community Member Posts: 417 Championing

    If I get this survey I'm very tempted to ask the DWP what they spent their money on.

    We're not electing this time, ours is due in 2 years I think. But my area is a very. Labour. Council. And services here almost all funnelled into Labour wards at the expense of the others…and Labour never put a meaningful candidate in my ward anyway so not voting for them would be meaningless. Hardly anyone in my ward has voted Labour in 30 years.

    So it wouldn't really matter that much overall.

    One of the main reasons I didn't vote Labour in the election was their desire to build all over our green spaces, which our Council has earmarked for all the non-Labour wards…without considering infrastructure or environmental/flooding impact. They do a lot of talking and not much listening.

    With that said, in central government Labour are still better than the alternatives. Remember even if the ones at the top are being unreasonable, there are a growing number of Labour MPs rebelling against this initiative and speaking out against cuts.

    I agree with worried that the breakdown of the points reflects an outdated and ignorant assumption about what constitutes disability - and indicates a complete lack of engagement with actual disabled people leading up to the policy.

    I am so sick of reading the legally invalid term "severe disability" in articles and speeches.

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  • egister
    egister Posts: 1,110 Pioneering

    At least three parties with the same number of seats are needed in parliament.

  • Catherine21
    Catherine21 Online Community Member Posts: 9,583 Championing

    The latest is adhd and autism doesn't exist Trumpy boy saying same thing thier all in it together

  • Catherine21
    Catherine21 Online Community Member Posts: 9,583 Championing

    I'm so sick of labour everyday they bring more misery thier actually unbearable

  • Catherine21
    Catherine21 Online Community Member Posts: 9,583 Championing

    Yes she did she said she won't be freezing pip or vouchers said that as clear as day the person you watch made me so ill I never watch her

  • Catherine21
    Catherine21 Online Community Member Posts: 9,583 Championing

    Who will replace thier all horrific imagine khan getting it Jeremy Corbyn imagine just imagine I feel worse over this lot than I did the Tories

  • Catherine21
    Catherine21 Online Community Member Posts: 9,583 Championing

    They really are and have till July 14th oppt out of The Who Convention starmer will take us into that be worse bill gates supports it

  • Catherine21
    Catherine21 Online Community Member Posts: 9,583 Championing

    That will have to be challenged god this labour is vile they making everything go back in time

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