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  • Donna_donna
    Donna_donna Online Community Member Posts: 35 Empowering
  • jul1aorways
    jul1aorways Online Community Member Posts: 397 Pioneering

    Hi @Catherine21 ๐Ÿ˜Š

    Yes, I've seen that you have been doing sterling work. Well done. โœŠ

    I have emailed my MP amongst others and I did get a reasonable reply which was something but he was vague and dismissive for all that.

    I can't threaten my MP to vote him out of government though. He's a Tory!! ๐Ÿ™„

  • WhatThe
    WhatThe Online Community Member, Scope Member Posts: 5,538 Championing
    edited May 2025

    "Itโ€™s true the 2016 reforms made the WCA stricter"

    Those 'reforms' make the WCA perilous for LCWRA claimants. Stricter doesn't even cover it!

    They were not reforms at all, just a pack of lies.

  • WhatThe
    WhatThe Online Community Member, Scope Member Posts: 5,538 Championing

    anon, PIP is not our main worry, no.

    Reforms to the WCA and years of campaigners calling for it to be scrapped have become petitions to scrap the WCA. Plans to merge PIP with working-age benefits is not new. There was never meant to be two health assessments as DLA was a working-age benefit only. Things went wrong a long time ago - in 2012 to be precise.

  • WhatThe
    WhatThe Online Community Member, Scope Member Posts: 5,538 Championing
    edited May 2025

    MW, eligibility for LCWRA was tightened in 2016. We just haven't spoken about it for the last 10 years!!!

  • WhatThe
    WhatThe Online Community Member, Scope Member Posts: 5,538 Championing

    UC wasn't ready in 2017 for mass migrations then we had the pandemic. Skirting around the 2015 cuts as though 'the most severely disabled' will only be harmed by future changes and not these is dangerous thinking.

  • Catherine21
    Catherine21 Online Community Member Posts: 9,796 Championing
  • Catherine21
    Catherine21 Online Community Member Posts: 9,796 Championing

    So what do you suggest now we have three weeks ??

  • anon85
    anon85 Online Community Member Posts: 23 Contributor

    I have read from several sources recently published that those in the lcwra group will not be reassessed, only in exceptional circumstances such as reports to changes in health, investigating fraud, etc

    I'm in a state of confusion over this, as whilst I've read the above from several sources, it seems that some people don't think this to be correct?

    Please could you let me know your thoughts on this and why you think that? I ask to try to get clarity.

    And also, please could you let me know in your opinion, as i know this can only be answered through personal opinion, if someone has previously scored 4 points in one of the daily living criteria of PIP and their circumstances have not changed, in your opinion do you think they'd get the 4 points again upon reassessment?

  • anon85
    anon85 Online Community Member Posts: 23 Contributor

    https://www.disabilityrightsuk.org/news/dwp-announces-major-wca-changes-new-esa-and-uc-claimants-2025

    This article for example states what I've been reading from several sources, that lcwra claimants will not be reassessed.

    Am I missing something or misinterpreting this?

    I'd appreciate your thoughts and insights.

  • WhatThe
    WhatThe Online Community Member, Scope Member Posts: 5,538 Championing

    Those are proposals.. Nothing changes in 3 weeks' time.

    I suggest finding out what really happened in 2016 and why it all went quiet!

  • WhatThe
    WhatThe Online Community Member, Scope Member Posts: 5,538 Championing

    anon, I can't date your article but bear in mind that this mention of "Amending the LCWRA Substantial Risk regulation" has already happened. I can only think this is here to confuse people.

  • WhatThe
    WhatThe Online Community Member, Scope Member Posts: 5,538 Championing

    Where do people think that 'experts' like B&W get their information from?

    anon, I don't know anything about PIP only that the greatest risk is to working-age claimants being migrated to UC under the 2016 reforms. They should not have been passed. Nor the 2012 reforms. Parliament was lied to and we are still being lied to about why further changes are needed to fix the 'broken' benefits system. The one they broke!

    The bereaved families have been lied to for too long. I think they deserve to know the facts about welfare reform.

  • Catherine21
    Catherine21 Online Community Member Posts: 9,796 Championing

    I agree sorry agreed with other post We are in the here and now and have to work with what we have I never knew any changes in 2016 and still got reassessed in 2020 still on going all this side tracking is wasting time

  • Catherine21
    Catherine21 Online Community Member Posts: 9,796 Championing
  • sarah_lea12
    sarah_lea12 Online Community Member Posts: 442 Empowering

    If your circumstances have not changed and you scored 4 points then you would appeal if they scored down this time in my opinion .

  • Zipz
    Zipz Online Community Member Posts: 4,351 Championing

    Have I missed something important? What is happening in three weeks time. Thank you.

  • Santosha12
    Santosha12 Online Community Member Posts: 4,133 Championing

    I wondered that, I'm guessing it's the end of the consultation period for the Green Paper but I could be wrong, has been known very occasionally ๐Ÿ˜‰ ๐Ÿ˜….

  • Catherine21
    Catherine21 Online Community Member Posts: 9,796 Championing
  • Zipz
    Zipz Online Community Member Posts: 4,351 Championing

    The Green Paper consultation period runs until 30 June.

    @Catherine21 What's happening in three weeks?

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