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OOh I don't I thought he was trying save his own neck literally! Whatever reputation he had with disabled community is wreaked people been calling him out big time
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So for my understanding of what been reading here is that concessions has to go through Parliament for welfare reforms someone thinks maybe needs impact report so what I've done is emailed my mp stating that that's not good enough and we want 4 point rule dropped and wca to stay as it is also had to point out that if mps didn't work along side us reform will have his seat next year I stated work with us we will keep you in people email your mp now before starmer thinks he get away with doing that don't be scared we still have to keep pushing unions having March on 7th of June they had enough if labour pls people email your mp tell them what you want !!!
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Thanks Catherine, that's great to read about.👌I'm sure you won't mind me giving the link to your screenshot so it's easier for others to read.
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This headline from 2024 proves that the Labour party was out to get everyone, not just disabled.
https://www.express.co.uk/finance/personalfinance/1920670/Labour-plot-means-test-state-pension-Starmer-tax-raid-Rachel-Reeves
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A state pension was describe as "Benefit " in 1947. And bought in under a "Monies " bill. So nothing is the same as you think it is in this world of benefits, when you think your safe, you're not. No one is safe under this government, be it pensioner or claimant or disabled. I understand from classing entitlements as monie bills, that they can withdraw it anytime.🤫
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No not at all x
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Wow it's true even the Tories didn't go as far as labour
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What they didn't relize the power of the people making big speeches about cutting everything with great joy I can't wait to see them fall
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who here is more hopeful now that this will not go ahead ?
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I wish I could be
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I'm not sure what to really but I feel pessimistic.
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LooLooking better than did on 18th March that's for sure union's involved backbenchers yh I'm more hopefull
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I feel more hope now 20% better than I did last week but knowing this conniving government nothing would surprise me if they ignored all protests
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I'm feeling more hopefull.
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I think that those of us who can't attend, which is most of us should write to their MP and tell them what we require from them. Don't just leave it to those of us who are capable of going. That will only give the Labour leadership something they want and I don't think we are likely to approve of that! 😁 I'm starting mine in the morning. ✊
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Given that this is the same person who said Labour didn't go far enough with their cuts in the original Green Paper reveal, we should treat anything she says with a pinch of salt.
She's saying this now because she thinks she can win over people in what is becoming a controversial debate, not because the Tories would do any different.
Remember Tories have said they will help Labour vote through the cuts. Unless they abstain or oppose it, we should not believe they mean us any better.I think it's also key that the core of this rebellion in parliament is Labour backbenchers. Labour are not the problem - the people at the top making the decisions are. Many Labour MPs are more on our side than those from Reform or Conservatives are.
I didn't vote Labour and I don't have a Labour MP, but I still feel like there's more chance of this being overturned by the real Labour MPs than if it were the Tories still in charge.
I agree that the PIP four point rule has to go, stat. Then there has to be a fresh consultation on the other decisions around WCA, and ESA and such, putting claimants of those benefits front and centre.
What is reassuring to me is that right now there are people still fighting. Even though so many MSM outlets are not running stories about us anymore, there's still a growing backlash and we have a voice. Ten years ago, we didn't have that voice. Hopefully it will make us harder to victimise in future.4
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