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  • Tumilty
    Tumilty Online Community Member Posts: 297 Empowering

    They'll probably win the vote if I'm correct but the amount of MPs on the left surely will cause enough of a stink.A few senior MPs like McDonald I think and Abbott are against it all and they have clought.

  • Passerby
    Passerby Posts: 450 Trailblazing
    Starmer faces major revolt over benefits cuts as frontbenchers ‘poised to quit’ over reforms.
  • jul1aorways
    jul1aorways Online Community Member Posts: 397 Pioneering
    edited May 24

    Well squirrel, all I can say is that they will be out anyway if they try to push these cuts through as 200 MPs will find out by their PIP claimants voting them out. Some of those constituencies belong to ministers as well, including Streeting.

    As long as Rayner will keep her stance on being against the cuts up. She was for them not so long ago but she's seen the writing on the wall now and is acting accordingly.

    As long as it benefits us, that's the main thing, above all else.🤞We may be able to vote them out eventually but we don't want them to get the opportunity to take us down before they go. 😞

    We have got to keep the pressure up, even if things become really grim. I'm worried that if this vote does go through, that many disabled people may give up. 🥺

    That is the worst thing that could happen because the Labour Leadership have then got us where they want us if there are not many of us opposing them. 😡

    We must call their bluff as we have so much support behind us and legal action could then be taken, if this is passed into law. It could be watered down a lot, like the WFA. ✊

    Even if this vote is postponed so MPs can see the OBR impact statement and we can have a proper say, that will be a substantial victory in itself and the outcome which is most likely if we are successful. I doubt very much we will get a complete U turn.

  • Passerby
    Passerby Posts: 450 Trailblazing
    edited May 24

    Anyone who doubts whether Angela Rayner supports sickness and disability benefit cuts should listen to this. Not only is she supporting them, but also she parrots the same misleading nonsensical of wicked Liz Kendall.

    Don't be fooled by her forked tongue and flipflopping. She pushed the leak of her memo a couple of days ago to test the waters, as all of them (MPs) are dreaming of becoming PM, but now that she has realised that her chances of replacing Keir Starmer are rather slim, she has come back to her initial position - supporting the evil proposal.

  • Catherine21
    Catherine21 Posts: 6,232 Championing

    That's how they like us scared easier to control we been brainwashed from birth school the lot we wasn't taught how to live off the land grow our own food ect we was taught maths English ect to be thier cash cows when we grew up they call us scroungers thier the biggest the law is to control us they can do whatever they want I'm sick of being scared of them I will keep emailing going email that one who said scroungers

  • Catherine21
    Catherine21 Posts: 6,232 Championing

    Even better if corybn formed a group imagine how the country would be Great Britian again like 80s 90s good standard of life services I remember council would paint and do gardening for disabled elderly transport for people to and from hospital meals on wheels people cared about thier street thier homes gossiping on doorsteps now we been stripped bare rubbish all over streets highstreets closed down left to freeze at winter and called scroungers worklessness veterans homeless and now starmer deliberately trying to destroy uk as he knows people despise him alot of mps do as well he won't win medals for kindness charisma he runs that place like it's a court room and were all the subjects to be accused of all sorts what did you spend that 100 my reply a trip to Dubai a designer handbag and with changed left over considering a face lift

  • Catherine21
    Catherine21 Posts: 6,232 Championing

    Pls your honour is it OK if I breathe I won't breathe to loud sick to the back teeth all this actually made me see what we have been putting up with pure torment vile institution

  • Catherine21
    Catherine21 Posts: 6,232 Championing
  • Catherine21
    Catherine21 Posts: 6,232 Championing
  • Catherine21
    Catherine21 Posts: 6,232 Championing

    I'm trying to accept that this will go through if it does can it be challenged in court and would that take a longtime ?

  • lincsgranny
    lincsgranny Online Community Member Posts: 76 Empowering

    It's the up and down each day that is soul destroying. Just wish the vote was tomorrow to get this over and done with one way or another

  • JasonRA
    JasonRA Online Community Member Posts: 233 Trailblazing

    The reforms will remove the support disabled people currently use to be able to work.

    It's so blindingly obvious that this isn't about getting disabled into work I am convinced it's intentional.

    Anyone who supports this either with or without researching the details of what is going to happen is a lying, cowardly, faceless cretin.

    Here's another thing which those Reform Party supporters can't get through their thick skulls, elderly people on PIP are going to lose their eligibility too in the hope to force elderly people to claim attendance allowance.

    Labour are handing the keys to Number 10 Downing Street to Nigel Farage aren't they?

  • JasonRA
    JasonRA Online Community Member Posts: 233 Trailblazing

    The Resolution Foundation report is damning. 3.2 million will have their disability benefits cuts on the justification they will get a job. But only 60,000 to 105,000 at most will be able to get a job. This means the major justification for the cuts is a lie.  

    They just want to make our lives even more of a misery. What a rotten government, a truly rotten rabble of twisted individuals.

  • lincsgranny
    lincsgranny Online Community Member Posts: 76 Empowering

    Yeah their a shameful bunch, it's always been about balancing the their books and unfortunately we are the easiest targets. We won't forget

  • bton1968
    bton1968 Online Community Member Posts: 114 Empowering

    And the rest will face sanctions to their universal credit

  • Martinp
    Martinp Online Community Member Posts: 193 Empowering
    edited May 24

    I won’t because I’m going to use the last bit of money I will have for a final week away at my favourite place and then say goodbye to this. No other option

  • jul1aorways
    jul1aorways Online Community Member Posts: 397 Pioneering

    Yes it is a lot more than we could have hoped for. We were too used to being ignored and sidelined.

    It's really encouraging to see all the solid support that we've got but it didn't happen while the Tories took a smaller amount of our benefits off us at any one time and repeated it every so often.

    They were more on the ball for keeping our loses in support quiet but this lot only seem to know the sledgehammer approach.

    At least with them attempting to take nearly everything we've got left has got us the attention we deserve but what a terrible price we've all had to pay for it! 🥺

    What is terrifying is the sheer scale of the cuts and the Labour leaderships sadisic denial that they are doing anything wrong. We've not had a straight answer from them since March!! 😳

  • lincsgranny
    lincsgranny Online Community Member Posts: 76 Empowering

    Disability talk with Steve has put new video up

    Would put it on her but has Kendall on the screen

    Should check it out on YouTube

  • johnnyy85
    johnnyy85 Online Community Member Posts: 145 Empowering

    The observer are reporting an exclusive that Starmer is scrapping the two child benefit cap and saying in doing so it now shows that it is a moral mission to carry on with the disability cuts

  • johnnyy85
    johnnyy85 Online Community Member Posts: 145 Empowering

    Some aspects of the plan will be announced before summer. Although no final decision has been made, Whitehall sources say this is likely to include a commitment to end the two-child cap as part of an attempt to show that welfare reform is a “moral mission” for the government rather than simply an austerity drive. Dozens of Labour MPs are threatening to rebel over the government’s proposed changes to disability benefits.