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  • johnnyy85
    johnnyy85 Community Member Posts: 266 Empowering

    Some aspects of the plan will be announced before summer. Although no final decision has been made, Whitehall sources say this is likely to include a commitment to end the two-child cap as part of an attempt to show that welfare reform is a “moral mission” for the government rather than simply an austerity drive. Dozens of Labour MPs are threatening to rebel over the government’s proposed changes to disability benefits.

  • johnnyy85
    johnnyy85 Community Member Posts: 266 Empowering
  • JasonRA
    JasonRA Community Member Posts: 315 Championing

    I think it will pass now, despite ALL the negative coverage they're going to pass it.

    Starmer and co are making this not a moral mission but an ideological crusade, they know it's wrong, they know it will force people into destitution but they will do it anyway.

  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Community Member Posts: 2,052 Championing

    This can only backfire on her . It shows how two faced she is . According to what I just heard on silver fox there are now over 150 voting against. Obviously don’t know how true it is but if it the rebellion is growing.

  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Community Member Posts: 2,052 Championing

    so basically he’s reinstating the WFA and scrapping the 2 child cap as they’ll use the money saved from the disabled. I hope this back fires as if true it’s disgusting

  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Community Member Posts: 2,052 Championing
  • JasonRA
    JasonRA Community Member Posts: 315 Championing

    https://www.ft.com/content/948a4d12-1543-4d1a-b288-97433f74a01d?utm_source=chatgpt.com

    "An ally of Kendall said that, while the movement on winter fuel was welcomed by Labour MPs, bold action on child poverty would be more likely to sway them into backing reforms to sickness and disability benefits. “Child poverty is the thing that’s relevant in that debate,” they said."

  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Community Member Posts: 2,052 Championing

    I just read on on here Rayner is now for the cuts and apparently starmers next u turn is the 2 child limit . I hope they don’t forget to k turn on the disability cuts too

  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Community Member Posts: 2,052 Championing

    I’m confused as I’ve read we only need 83 votes against from Labour and we could have 150

  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Community Member Posts: 2,052 Championing

    If this is true it’s disgusting if they vote for cuts to disability to pay for scrapping the 2 child limit . Obviously disabled people don’t matter to them as we apparently don’t contribute to the economy and society.

  • johnnyy85
    johnnyy85 Community Member Posts: 266 Empowering

    Hopefully these u turns come come in 3s as they say 1.WFA 2. 2 child limit and 3.disability benefits

  • charlie72
    charlie72 Community Member Posts: 259 Pioneering

    What an awful excuse for a human being she is!!

    Such narratives contribute to the stigmatization of individuals who rely on welfare support, often overlooking the complex socioeconomic factors that lead to unemployment or the need for assistance. Moreover, they can have detrimental effects on the mental health of claimants, who may already be facing significant challenges.

    Research indicates that negative media portrayals of welfare recipients can exacerbate feelings of shame and isolation among claimants, potentially leading to increased mental health issues . It's essential to approach discussions about welfare with nuance and empathy, recognizing the diverse circumstances that lead individuals to seek support

  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Community Member Posts: 2,052 Championing
  • Ironside1990
    Ironside1990 Community Member Posts: 401 Pioneering

    I've been at peace with my disability for years now. I was born with Cerebral Palsy and Hydrocephalus. I think even though you're born with a disability, you still go through a period of grief for the live you could've had. I am greatful of PIP and the opportunities that it has given me, but it's things like this that makes me feel that i'm going backwards and i wish i didn't have to claim PIP as i feel shame. Why should i be made to feel ashamed for getting a bit of money that helps me have my independence.

    The relentless demonisation is too much. Sick of it!

  • lincsgranny
    lincsgranny Community Member Posts: 201 Empowering

    Yeah constantly on high vigilance checking news YouTube etc I'm exhausted my emotions are all over the place.

    We have a disability discrimination act in this country pity the evil in government think it's okay to not just pick on us but I feel like I've done 12 rounds with Tyson Fury 😓

  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Community Member Posts: 2,052 Championing

    You’re right . It was bad enough being treated like this but now hearing how Starmer and even Farage are talking about helping the pensioners ( which I agree with) and scrapping the 2 child limit in order to get MPs on side to vote fir disability cuts . Why are we less worthy ? They claim they’ll have to stop the spiralling benefits bill by making cuts then happy to scrap the 2 child limit so it counteracts any savings made from disability cuts. It feels like it’s anything to leave us destitute.

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  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Community Member Posts: 2,052 Championing

    Oh wow, in one way reform are doing us a favour by scaring labour but I just read reform are saying they’ll reinstate the WFA and scrap the 2 child limit. Which is why starmers now saying they’ll reinstate same apparently. It feels as though as long as no other party cares about us Labour don’t have to . What a sick society this is . I watched silver fox the other day and he said in his opinion Rayner knows labours finished but she wants the chance to be PM before the next election.

  • Topcat71
    Topcat71 Community Member Posts: 194 Empowering

    Whatever we say,or think we cannot do anything else .

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