Green Paper Related Discussions
Comments
-
Had enough of them telling lies 😡
3 -
Hi Squirrel 🐿️
It shows the extent of what we are having to go through, how deeply traumatic it is if we affected by just seeing pictures of them. They would love to know that, it just feeds into their evil agenda.
Yet another of the numerous things we have to deal with by strong and resilient. I don't know about you but I'm sure you feel just as fed up of having to be strong 💪in such terrible and undeserved circumstances, when we have to fight the misery of disability anyway. 😞
Talking to each other on here though, definitely helps 😃 and it does us good to blow off some steam too!! 😤 It helps to preserve what sanity we have left!
I think that Rayner is only acting in self interest. It's being said that she is positioning herself to make a bid to be prime minister if the Labour government get rid of Starmer eventually.
Many of the Labour MPs who are voting against or abstaining on the cuts are only doing it to save their seats.
It doesn't matter how they come to a decision to help us as long as they do. That includes Rayner. We can't be be particular about whether it's from a moral standpoint or a selfish one. I just wish that more would vote against the cuts rather than abstain though. 😡
Jul 😊
0 -
I've got a feeling that Rayner might just do so. That would set the cat amongst the pigeons as you've just said!😉
The Labour Leadership have just got to realise that they cannot just be the Red Tories.
Their voters, who are very much more likely to vote against them by voting for the Greens or Lib Dems than for Reform at the Local and General Elections are NOT right wing voters.
I wish that Morgan McSweeny would stop whispering in Starmers ear 👂 and Blair would stop whispering in the other one.
They are trying to destroy our lives and to a lesser extent, the lives of so many other people in this country as they are so blinkered that they can only see the almost negligable effect of Reforms vote on them. According to recent figures, all 8% of it! 🤦
Deluded and as thick as mince doesn't even begin to describe it! 🤣
0 -
Can you imagine Jul Rayner voting against. I did listen to her interview on bbc before the election regarding disability and she came across well .
I agree I don’t care that it’s for their own benefit as long as they vote for us . I emailed Rayner starmer reeves Kendall Timms , even farage and I told them there are millions of disabled votes they’re losing2 -
Maybe it's all down to Starmer the dictator and Mp's are starting to show their true beliefs ….
But as you say, as long as they VOTE for us who cares !
1 -
Just checked the odds on Rayner being next labour leader her odds have shortened from 10/1 to 4/1 in a week
1 -
It would be a great idea I agree 😊 but MPs would need to be elected first and there wouldn't be many to begin with. It would take time for them to become a party that could take on the other political parties too.
0 -
They'll probably win the vote if I'm correct but the amount of MPs on the left surely will cause enough of a stink.A few senior MPs like McDonald I think and Abbott are against it all and they have clought.
0 -
The user and all related content has been deleted.3
-
Well squirrel, all I can say is that they will be out anyway if they try to push these cuts through as 200 MPs will find out by their PIP claimants voting them out. Some of those constituencies belong to ministers as well, including Streeting.
As long as Rayner will keep her stance on being against the cuts up. She was for them not so long ago but she's seen the writing on the wall now and is acting accordingly.
As long as it benefits us, that's the main thing, above all else.🤞We may be able to vote them out eventually but we don't want them to get the opportunity to take us down before they go. 😞
We have got to keep the pressure up, even if things become really grim. I'm worried that if this vote does go through, that many disabled people may give up. 🥺
That is the worst thing that could happen because the Labour Leadership have then got us where they want us if there are not many of us opposing them. 😡
We must call their bluff as we have so much support behind us and legal action could then be taken, if this is passed into law. It could be watered down a lot, like the WFA. ✊
Even if this vote is postponed so MPs can see the OBR impact statement and we can have a proper say, that will be a substantial victory in itself and the outcome which is most likely if we are successful. I doubt very much we will get a complete U turn.
0 -
The user and all related content has been deleted.0
-
It's the up and down each day that is soul destroying. Just wish the vote was tomorrow to get this over and done with one way or another
0 -
The reforms will remove the support disabled people currently use to be able to work.
It's so blindingly obvious that this isn't about getting disabled into work I am convinced it's intentional.
Anyone who supports this either with or without researching the details of what is going to happen is a lying, cowardly, faceless cretin.
Here's another thing which those Reform Party supporters can't get through their thick skulls, elderly people on PIP are going to lose their eligibility too in the hope to force elderly people to claim attendance allowance.
Labour are handing the keys to Number 10 Downing Street to Nigel Farage aren't they?
2 -
The Resolution Foundation report is damning. 3.2 million will have their disability benefits cuts on the justification they will get a job. But only 60,000 to 105,000 at most will be able to get a job. This means the major justification for the cuts is a lie.
They just want to make our lives even more of a misery. What a rotten government, a truly rotten rabble of twisted individuals.
2 -
Yeah their a shameful bunch, it's always been about balancing the their books and unfortunately we are the easiest targets. We won't forget
2 -
And the rest will face sanctions to their universal credit
2 -
I won’t because I’m going to use the last bit of money I will have for a final week away at my favourite place and then say goodbye to this. No other option
0 -
Yes it is a lot more than we could have hoped for. We were too used to being ignored and sidelined.
It's really encouraging to see all the solid support that we've got but it didn't happen while the Tories took a smaller amount of our benefits off us at any one time and repeated it every so often.
They were more on the ball for keeping our loses in support quiet but this lot only seem to know the sledgehammer approach.
At least with them attempting to take nearly everything we've got left has got us the attention we deserve but what a terrible price we've all had to pay for it! 🥺
What is terrifying is the sheer scale of the cuts and the Labour leaderships sadisic denial that they are doing anything wrong. We've not had a straight answer from them since March!! 😳
0 -
Disability talk with Steve has put new video up
Would put it on her but has Kendall on the screen
Should check it out on YouTube
1 -
The observer are reporting an exclusive that Starmer is scrapping the two child benefit cap and saying in doing so it now shows that it is a moral mission to carry on with the disability cuts
0
Categories
- All Categories
- 16K Start here and say hello!
- 7.5K Coffee lounge
- 113 Games den
- 1.8K People power
- 160 Announcements and information
- 25.3K Talk about life
- 6.1K Everyday life
- 403 Current affairs
- 2.5K Families and carers
- 881 Education and skills
- 2K Work
- 591 Money and bills
- 3.8K Housing and independent living
- 1.2K Transport and travel
- 656 Relationships
- 1.6K Mental health and wellbeing
- 2.5K Talk about your impairment
- 881 Rare, invisible, & undiagnosed conditions
- 942 Neurological impairments and pain
- 2.3K Cerebral Palsy Network
- 1.3K Autism and neurodiversity
- 41.1K Talk about your benefits
- 6.2K Employment & Support Allowance (ESA)
- 20.4K PIP, DLA, ADP & AA
- 9.2K Universal Credit (UC)
- 5.3K Benefits and income



