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  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Online Community Member Posts: 1,369 Championing

    Exactly this ! He’s trying to make out it’s softening the blow after WFA and possible two child limit u turns . But this isn’t a u turn at all , was planned at the start and now using it to look good to the rebels. I did watch dynamic duo and Rich said he thinks it’s they’ll continue to pay pip while we go to appeal . If that’s true they might as well just leave pip alone as I only 2-3 years anyway so once the system is overloaded with hundreds of thousands of appeals it’ll take that long .

  • onlymeagain
    onlymeagain Online Community Member Posts: 163 Empowering

    I'm confused by the possible change to the 2 child rule. Part of the reason for it, was to stop the trend of young girls having baby after baby and living on benefits. By scrapping the 2 child limit surely that will just result in the same again? So, how will that reduce the welfare spend?

  • Passerby
    Passerby Posts: 438 Trailblazing

    "So, how will that reduce the welfare spend?"

    No one has said scrapping the two child limit would reduce anything other than pressure from Labour MPs.

  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Online Community Member Posts: 1,369 Championing

    They weren’t interested in scrapping it until the fight back from the disability cuts imo . I think it’s a bribe to rebel mps . But they’re forgetting this will actually cost money yet scrapping the plans to disability cuts won’t cost anything extra .

  • Passerby
    Passerby Posts: 438 Trailblazing

    By the way, I don't hear Fightback4Justice anymore, even though they gave us hope soon after the damn Green Paper was published!

  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Online Community Member Posts: 1,369 Championing

    I’ve never heard of them . I’m starting to feel that emailing is just helping other groups ( and I do think WFA should be reinstated) and disabled still being ignored. I haven’t done anything compared to others but fed up of feeling like a second class citizen.

  • Catherine21
    Catherine21 Posts: 6,185 Championing

    Omg that would be a dream a pure dream I admire him for standing again after awful witch hunt they did on him what a man and john mcdonnell so many good mps that could join oh and Richard maybe that's in the pipeline let's hope

  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Online Community Member Posts: 1,369 Championing

    Catherine Jeremy is my MP and lives nearby 😀. Imagine if you lived here , meet up for coffee ( if we up to it ) and looking for Jeremy 😂

  • Catherine21
    Catherine21 Posts: 6,185 Championing

    And irwin mitchell I asked if they would be supporting pip cuts received a response they have to much workload and have to support clients something like that so I responded are any of those clients regarding pip reforms replied unfortunately not and suggested to contact The law project which I have

  • Catherine21
    Catherine21 Posts: 6,185 Championing

    No keep emailing it is helping but they won't break ranks in front of us you do alot for this community I have really felt it last couple of days but honestly keep emailing he hasn't made concrete plans amd with winter fuel he said depending on funds so comes budget no funds we have 100 to 150 mps against letter to echr signed by 60 charities go on thier website dpac covered everything in letter and disabled actress actors written to starmer stating drop these horrendous cuts thier getting it from every angle I changed my emails to they are not softening anything all they will do is hold back and then reinstate to the same plans stated what do they think we will get jobs ??? Or just disappear in that time he really deserves name flip flop but my god it plays with mental health big time

  • charlie72
    charlie72 Online Community Member Posts: 217 Pioneering

    The reason so many so called people are claiming PIP is due to an aging population and waiting lists for mental health and physical conditions and operations. They need to stop making out PIP is an out of work benefit and stop saying work makes things better etc. The majority of people claiming PIP are either in work (or want to work) but employers won't take them on.

    If there are loads of jobs out there, which Kendall keeps chirping on about, then why are the able bodied and non mentally ill folk being made to do them first?? It really does twist my melon all this false rhetoric and propaganda.

  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Online Community Member Posts: 1,369 Championing

    I just emailed Jeremy again and mentioned a descriptor for fatigue and TP for us losing pip until we get another benefit isn’t going to work as there isn’t another benefit. I’ve also messaged demented Kendall again and Starmer saying same but I added that I know they don’t care about disabled but after waiting 14 years they’ll never get back in as they’re losing all the disabled votes .

  • Catherine21
    Catherine21 Posts: 6,185 Championing

    Hhhh yes we would have we love Jeremy Corbyn badges signs the lot he was doing a speech at a university caught it yesterday he spoke with such compassion and care in this cruel world people like Jeremy john Richard debbie amd some other lovely labour mps because there is some on and Diane abbot genuinely moves me to tears Corbyn is a unique individual so much respect for him

  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Online Community Member Posts: 1,369 Championing

    Have you noticed how the job seekers on uc basic aren’t being mentioned and encouraged to find work but are being given extra ( I do think extra is needed) , again it’s everyone but us . Why aren’t the able bodied able to find a job if it’s so easy for us

  • Holly_Scope
    Holly_Scope Posts: 2,455 Scope Online Community Coordinator

    @jul1aorways that's a very powerful piece, love it! Thanks for sharing ☺️

  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Online Community Member Posts: 1,369 Championing

    I also wrote all my conditions and symptoms and said over exertion for an ME sufferer is dangerous yet I don’t get a 4 point descriptor at present so I’ll be no longer classed as disabled and not fit enough to work.