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  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Community Member Posts: 2,052 Championing

    Charlie I never liked him . There’s something very creepy about him . I whole thing needs scrapping but as you say we will all be going tribunal for that 4 points now. I think there’s a lot of us that should be awarded a 4 points but don’t appeal as we get an award anyway. This will overload the system

  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Community Member Posts: 2,052 Championing

    What I don’t understand is how it will save money . I know people on lcwra but not pip due to fear of the assessment. Now if they’ll have to have the new pip assessment in order to get lcwra and they pass won’t this mean they’ll also get pip ? So they’ll be on more money than they get currently

  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Community Member Posts: 2,052 Championing

    Exactly Catherine but you notice they haven’t been mentioned apart from a payment rise . Not saying they don’t deserve the increase but what about they concentrate on finding them these great career opportunities first

  • mrsBB
    mrsBB Community Member Posts: 303 Empowering

    Hi and thankyou chiarieds. I had a bad day yesterday, some comments came across as very anti State Pensioners claiming PIP, it did ruffle my feathers, a lot. I had lots more to say on the subject but then felt as I was so angry, better to just leave it and maybe take a break. I am calmer today, so with a deep breath here I am and moving on from that particular discussion.

    Thank you so much for the advice and the links 😊Poppy helped me with advice re claiming pension credit, both levels plus I have tried the different calculators. I am a member of age concern and receive their newsletters and have spoken to them. The problem is I have a complicated situation. At the moment I really cannot and do not complain, as my SP along with PIP means I can manage just about, loosing PIP though would plunge me into real dire straights, it helps with so many extra disability related things I need to keep me independent.

    Thank you again chiarieds 😊

    and thank you to all those that understand we are all in this together no matter what age we are ☺️

  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Community Member Posts: 2,052 Championing

    Hi ,

    Have you seen this information anywhere else other than The Financial Times? I’ve been looking and can’t see any other outlets reporting on this . Usually they like to copy each other .

  • jul1aorways
    jul1aorways Community Member Posts: 397 Pioneering

    I'm happy to put on what I can find that is relevant. 😊

  • mrsBB
    mrsBB Community Member Posts: 303 Empowering
  • Martinp
    Martinp Community Member Posts: 249 Empowering

    This is like torture, every few days news comes out appearing to give hope to some people while still leaving the rest of us worried sick. I spent the morning going over all the point descriptors wondering if I could get 12 points. At the moment I get 9 and it’s soul destroying. I cant keep living like this, not sleeping or eating and just miserable. I try to stay positive I really do and have even laughed a few times at a couple of posts but I feel dead inside. Also just got the migration letter and that’s not helping, just can’t face it.

  • lil12
    lil12 Community Member Posts: 17 Connected

    I know how you feel MartinP..

    It's exhausting ..

    There are lots of us feeling the same x

  • mrsBB
    mrsBB Community Member Posts: 303 Empowering

    Martinp, its soul destroying isn't it, I feel for everyone caught up in this disgraceful shambles.

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  • Ross1975
    Ross1975 Posts: 1,128 Championing

    I forgot about that one, lol.

    Here's another one I forgot about, Sausage Starmer which is one I came up with myself a while back, it relates to when he accidently said something like release the sausages by mistake instead of release the hostages.

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  • Tumilty
    Tumilty Community Member Posts: 491 Empowering

    Hearing Starmer talk about Farage concerning trusting him over your futures.. whether or not I do I certainly don't with him, like he doesn't get what he's doing, traits of narcissist.

  • Martinp
    Martinp Community Member Posts: 249 Empowering

    There is a comment on Benefits and Work in the news section article about the CAB Pathway to Poverty report about Sian Berry MP early day motion 949. It is to do with welfare cuts and treating disabled people with dignity and respect. I have done what the poster asked and written to my MP asking him to sign it.

  • charlie72
    charlie72 Community Member Posts: 259 Pioneering

    Me neither until today, I now wish I'd appealed against it, I scored 11 points in daily living, I never knew until today that 12 would have meant enhanced. I'm so cross with myself today now for accepting the lower amount through fear I'd lose the lot. I won't be making that same mistake again, thank god I come on this forum I'd have done same thing at my next reassessment and lost everything under new rules(if they succeed).

  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Community Member Posts: 2,052 Championing

    The 4 point rule is surely discriminatory. Is you went to your Dr/ specialist and he said do you have a 4? Point in pip and you said no is he/she going to say oh you’re not disabled then . It’s ridiculous. And of course those of us on enhanced can suddenly lose a point and we are back to tribunal. No one is safe and assessments can’t be predicted as it’s luck of who does your assessment imo

  • onlymeagain
    onlymeagain Community Member Posts: 265 Empowering

    I'm undecided on this one. Whilst I would prefer they didn't make any changes, I can also see why this may be a consideration.
    My two older sons both get UC at the LCWRA rate. One had it from 20 and one from 23ish. We didn't apply originally because it just wouldn't have been beneficial going through the assessment. But during lockdown, this could be done over the phone. So we applied for him.
    They both received the COL payments, whereas we, getting Income Support, didn't. They both pay towards housekeeping but other than that, they have no bills, no shopping to buy, no fuel or car maintenance to pay for etc. So I can see why an under 22, living at home, doesn't really need as high an income as others. Plus many who receive LCWRA are still in Education until 25, so the parents will be claiming those benefits until the child turns 20.

    I also think they should have made PIP three tiered like DLA, which would help those who may have needs but not quite enough points for Standard.

  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Community Member Posts: 2,052 Championing

    Wow that sounded positive to me . Maybe the graph I read was correct that the Tory’s voting against

  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Community Member Posts: 2,052 Championing

    https://forum.scope.org.uk/discussion/comment/1032589#Comment_1032589

    Unfortunately not all children are as lucky to have good parents though . I’ve known of kids thrown out age 16. I think any age should be supported if disabled but I do think the young need support to study or work but definitely not forced . Same for us too , give those who feel they could study or work the opportunity to but don’t force disabled people against their will.

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