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  • Passerby
    Passerby Posts: 442 Trailblazing

    Nothing will happen and you'll keep your award until your next review time comes. If it comes after Nov. 2026 and that the proposed 4pts based scoring system gets into effect (God forbid), you would assessed with the new system.

    According to Stephen Timms, PIP claimants are reassessed every three years.

    Hope this will help.

  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Online Community Member Posts: 1,381 Championing

    I too wrote to kemi but no reply as yet . I did read that Helen whately conservatives said the reforms were cruel . But in The sun it claims Tory’s voting against as the reforms don’t go far enough. But that’s The sun newspaper so did they add that little bit in .

  • Passerby
    Passerby Posts: 442 Trailblazing

    My advice is this:

    Try to ask around, both on this forum and elsewhere, including Benefits & Work, which doesn't even require you to register in order to drop an enquiry, whether they're currently extending awards or are calling people for a reassessment/review.

    From your enquiry, if it happens that they're extending awards, hold on for a while and check again in three or four months and hopefully a lot of water will flow under the bridge by that time.

  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Online Community Member Posts: 1,381 Championing

    Thanks passerby , I’ll do that . It’s the way they don’t bother to communicate so if they do extend they won’t bother to write to me

  • chiarieds
    chiarieds Online Community Member Posts: 16,924 Championing

    Hi @secretsquirrel1 - I wrote to Kemi Badenoch on 4 May, & didn't receive a reply until 30 May, as, 'Kemi has received a high volume of correspondence and it is taking time to get back to everyone.'

    I'd rather believe a Conservative MP saying they'd back other MPs against the cuts in a televised debate about PIP chaired by Diane Abbott than the Sun any day.

    Previously I'd had a letter from Rishi Sunak on 1 April, who said at the end, 'There is little evidence that the Government's decisions will improve security for the genuinely vulnerable or offer support for those trapped by welfare get into good jobs. More is needed to be done to reform our welfare system and get people back into work, however, this has to happen in a thought out, consulted and open way.'

  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Online Community Member Posts: 1,381 Championing

    was that Helen whately you mean at the Diane Abbott meeting ? Catherine had a nice email from kemi .
    I don’t think Sunak would of been this brutal

  • Passerby
    Passerby Posts: 442 Trailblazing

    Andy Burnham should be the one to replace Keir Starmer. He identifies as a socialist, even though he used to identify during Blair tenture as being on the Blairite wing of the party.

  • chiarieds
    chiarieds Online Community Member Posts: 16,924 Championing

    @secretsquirrel1 - No, it was Danny Kruger at the Diane Abbott meeting.

    No, I don't think Rishi would have done anything like Labour from what he's said. He's my MP & has always responded (even when I didn't expect him to).

  • Passerby
    Passerby Posts: 442 Trailblazing

    I believe the claim of the Sun was just based on what Helen said on 18th March in reply to Liz Kendall. As we all know, Helen has recently criticised these cuts and called them cruel and rushed.

  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Online Community Member Posts: 1,381 Championing
  • Passerby
    Passerby Posts: 442 Trailblazing

    Rishi wasn't bad at all. To me, his fault was jumping into an unsalvageable sinking boat.

  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Online Community Member Posts: 1,381 Championing

    Up until Mel stride and the green paper I didn’t mind rishi . My conditions went into a very big set back then but after the short lived relief of Labour winning I realise the Tory’s weren’t as bad as Labour for us . I emailed kemi and said she needs a voter base support the disabled and get our votes but not with Mel stride .

  • noonebelieves
    noonebelieves Online Community Member Posts: 705 Championing
    An infographic titled “DWP Pathways to Work: Hidden Disability Benefits Cuts.” It shows icons and bold text listing major proposed changes: 	•	Scrapping the Work Capability Assessment (WCA) by 2028/29 	•	Stricter 4-point rule for PIP daily living component affecting 800,000+ 	•	Freezing and reduction of the UC health element 	•	Replacement of ESA and JSA with time-limited unemployment insurance 	•	PIP claim age raised from 16 to 18 	•	Delaying UC health element for very young people 	•	Cuts to Carer’s Allowance linked to PIP 	•	Reform of Access to Work, risking delays 	•	Mandatory support conversations and increased conditionality 	•	Lack of genuine consultation, violating Gunning Principles The infographic visually highlights the scale and interconnectedness of these changes, warning that many damaging cuts are hidden within the Green Paper proposals. Infographic titled “The hidden cost: the pressure on public services.” The image visually explains how cuts to disability benefits like Personal Independence Payment (PIP), LCWRA, and the carers element will force people who currently self-fund their care to rely on local authorities, increasing demand on Adult Social Care and the NHS. Additional impacts shown include: more people affected by the Benefit Cap, higher Council Tax Reduction (CTR) needs, loss of Carer’s Allowance and protections for caregivers, and increased risk of sanctions or debt enforcement. The infographic also notes local authority challenges in charging policy for those losing disability benefits, and highlights that people moving into employment may pay less in care contributions than those on benefits. Source: Policy in Practice, “The impact of planned disability reforms on local authorities and the NHS” (https://policyinpractice.co.uk/blog/the-impact-of-planned-disability-reforms-on-local-authorities-and-the-nhs/). Link : https://policyinpractice.co.uk/blog/the-impact-of-planned-disability-reforms-on-local-authorities-and-the-nhs/   A table titled “Reforms” summarising the impact of planned disability benefits changes in the UK. Four reforms are listed: 	1.	PIP eligibility: claimants will need to score 4 points in one category (800,000 people affected, £3,677 million total impact, £4,596 per person). 	2.	LCWRA: Will be frozen for all claimants (1,700,000 people, £890 million, £524 each). 	3.	LCWRA: Claims from 26 April will receive £47 a week less (442,000 people, £1,080 million, £2,444 each). 	4.	LCWRA: People losing PIP will lose the health element of UC (232,000 people, £580 million, £2,505 each). The total impact is 2,942,000 people affected, a £6,227 million economic hit, and an average loss of £2,117 per person. A note explains these figures may underestimate the true impact, as some reforms and groups (like under-22s) are not included, and the modelling is local authority-based, missing some central government effects. Source: Policy in Practice, April 2025.

    When speaking with your MP, please highlight the several deeply concerning and deceptive disability benefit cuts proposed in the Pathways to Work Green Paper. ⬇️These changes will have serious consequences—not just for disabled people and carers, but also for wider society.

    Explain to your MP that cutting essential support will also increase pressure on the NHS, adult social care, and local councils.(evidence with alt text👇🏼)Many MPs are not well informed about how disability benefits actually work, and some may be swayed & manipulated by misleading narratives and lies pushed by Kendall.

    Please keep speaking up. Our collective voice matters. We must stand together and speak for all including all the disabled people who’ve migrated to UC-no disabled person should be left behind.

    In solidarity ✊

  • Tumilty
    Tumilty Online Community Member Posts: 296 Empowering

    Thankyou i appreciate your words. The 4 pts system is so unfair as making points harder and adjusting them as they want. I have more than 4 the last time so the same illness i (we all), have is degraded when for us it's still the same as it always has been

  • chiarieds
    chiarieds Online Community Member Posts: 16,924 Championing

    So good to see you posting again @noonebelieves - I hope you are keeping well.

  • Passerby
    Passerby Posts: 442 Trailblazing
    edited June 3

    You're very welcome.

    Anyone who has gone through the WCA and/or PIP assessments would agree that these assessments mainly depend on the assessor and DWP's decision maker themselves rather than the assessments, which is very similar to driving tests. You're correct, they adjust points as they like and, I believe, in reflection with their judgement of the claimant as a person rather than their health conditions.

    That's why I hate these assessments. Each time I speak with my GP, she asks me whether I've claimed PIP and I'm hesitating to do so to date due to the hassle and worry that it causes from day one till you receive a decision, which could even take a year, making me feel nervous and worried for a whole year. In addition, I can easily mess up my assessment, as I cannot stand stupid or silly questions.

  • bton1968
    bton1968 Online Community Member Posts: 113 Empowering
  • Wibbles
    Wibbles Online Community Member Posts: 2,593 Championing

    Your table is missing another important benefit - Carers Allowance !

    The caree must to be receiving Daily Living to receive CA.

    How many claimants will lose Carers Allowance if this unfair reform goes through ?

  • lincsgranny
    lincsgranny Online Community Member Posts: 71 Empowering

    What do these politicians know about mental health and disabilities. Because Liz Kendall knows squat just that everyone is faking it. Makes me so angry as these people haven't got a clue. Id like her to walk in my shoes for a day because I bet she wouldn't cope for a hour in them.

  • egister
    egister Posts: 1,026 Pioneering

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