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  • Fuzzy200
    Fuzzy200 Community Member Posts: 53 Empowering

    A interesting article which has just been released.

    https://youtu.be/MtOS_QzQlSs?si=kU1m8T4nNJKtQpUm

  • Holly_Alumni
    Holly_Alumni Scope alumni Posts: 6,534 Championing

    Hi @Catherine21 it's completely understandable it'd worry you when you read something like that, especially with the amount of misleading and often quite alarming coverage we've seen. I hope you're doing ok. I've seen you've been championing contacting MP's again which is brilliant and a great place to focus that energy! 💪☺️

  • charlie72
    charlie72 Community Member Posts: 259 Pioneering

    Don't apologise, media sites and other clickbait shouldn't put articles like that online, especially when they know vulnerable people will read them, panic, and re-post them again, just what they want to happen!! I blame them entirely for spreading false news and adding to already anxious, worried, even terrified peoples concerns about these 'reforms'. and making our lives even more unbearable. I get why people post these comments, they panic(which is what they want) and we all want answers at present, we'll know a lot more after next week hopefully, until then nobody knows what this governments plans are, doubtless they know either!!

  • YogiBear
    YogiBear Community Member Posts: 410 Pioneering

    First reading of the Welfare Reform Bill will be next week - 18 June 2025. The second reading and vote will be on 3 July 2025.

  • WhatThe
    WhatThe Community Member, Scope Member Posts: 6,150 Championing
    edited June 2025

    People, you have no right to complain if you don't bother to vote!

    Most of this thread is one person's phone notifications from x twit and GB 'news' in oversized text! It's enough to drive anyone barmy 🙄

  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Community Member Posts: 2,048 Championing

    Hi loucie,

    I always got the impression the Tory green paper was a last ditch attempt to win the election and not a serious attempt at stopping pip . It was rushed to the point that it wasn’t even accepted in court . Labour according to Ellen Clifford fought tooth and nail and when they lost made sure their bill is water tight.
    They’re spending all this money on net zero but have said they’re not interested in saving wildlife or even swift boxes in new homes . Not only do they want to see us homeless but even birds . Complete bunch of psychopaths. Even Tony Blair saved the foxes fgs . Usually I can find something good in a party as I don’t support one in particular but this lot as vile . God I’d love to see this voted down not only for our sakes but to see the look on their faces .

  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Community Member Posts: 2,048 Championing

    Hi MW , I can’t even think this is legal on some many points

  • JasonRA
    JasonRA Community Member Posts: 304 Championing

    This is a test of mental endurance, I failed that test on Tuesday, just broke down in anger and tears but don't feel despondent there are people who do care and it's not some BS, it's legitimate care.

  • YogiBear
    YogiBear Community Member Posts: 410 Pioneering

    I wonder if we will find out anymore information about the proposed changes next week when the first reading of the Welfare Reform Bill takes place?

  • lincsgranny
    lincsgranny Community Member Posts: 201 Empowering
  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Community Member Posts: 2,048 Championing

    I’ve had a third reply from Kemis office today. Seems her staff are going through all the emails. She hasn’t said which way she’s voting but I think playing cards close to her chest .

  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Community Member Posts: 2,048 Championing

    They can be confident now but come 4 years time they’d better not come to my door

  • johnnyy85
    johnnyy85 Community Member Posts: 269 Empowering

    Can the work and pensions committee reply to the reply they received yesterday?

  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Community Member Posts: 2,048 Championing

    I think if /when this passes it will wipe out pip and lcwra almost completely with no way for the disabled to support themselves, no food, no shelter. With no disability benefits there will effectively be no such thing as disabled people . I can’t see how this is legal . I don’t think it’s legal to leave anyone with no financial support. I’m hoping lawyers are waiting to see the outcome of this before they act .

  • JasonRA
    JasonRA Community Member Posts: 304 Championing
    edited June 2025

    Labour are clearly a one term government.

  • lincsgranny
    lincsgranny Community Member Posts: 201 Empowering
  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Community Member Posts: 2,048 Championing

    That’s why they’ve just had a spending spree, to bribe the electorate. All the needed to do was to not scrap the WFA and disability benefits and they wouldn’t be quite so hated .

  • Danny123
    Danny123 Community Member Posts: 229 Empowering

    Kendall saying they are talking about giving people 13 weeks run on of there benefits of they loose it as a possible tweak 😂😂 THANKS ALOT ! What difference is that going to make , what do they think is going to happen to us all 🤷 were just going to be ok somehow ? What do they think we are going to do .... I'm just hanging on to logic on all of this but it's getting increasingly hard to believe they simply are just going to do it ..... Countless think tanks and expert's have made it quite clear they expect no more than this to put 12 thousand people in to work , they say there is less than 20 thousand jobs available , they are going to take thousands of pounds a year off of over 3 Hundred and forty thousand people , and there just closing there eyes , putting their fingers in their ears and pretending everything is going to sort itself out 😂 not to mention the DWP is nowhere near being got for purpose now , imagine it with less staff and the chaos this will cause .... I don't really know what to think z I feel like we're screaming out and no-one is listening , there's a reason so many MPs are rebelling , this could have a bigger backlash than the winter fuel payments

  • johnnyy85
    johnnyy85 Community Member Posts: 269 Empowering

    🚨 NEW: The Government will add the following welfare protections to head off the Labour rebellion:

    • PIP, Carer’s Allowance, and care/work support will continue for 13 weeks (not 4) after disqualification
    • Automatic higher Universal Credit for terminally ill

    [@PippaCrerar ]


    This is pathetic

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