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Is this good or bad
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So if everything does become law then our pip continues til it is look at again. My pip is still waiting to be reviewed .if I did lose pip at anytime would I lose my lcwra as well or is that if these changes happen you lose the lcwra
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My doctor says that they will be asked to support a claim so I guess this is being thrown about as a idea. Poor doctors they don't have much time now
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https://www.standard.co.uk/news/london/protest-austerity-march-london-whitehall-downing-street-bbc-b1231704.html
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The inquest did say that Jodey's suicide, ''had been precipitated by the mistaken withdrawal of benefits by the DWP.
However, the coroner held that she had heard of many changes and new structures at the DWP which left her satisfied that no wider recommendations were needed.''
I think the coroner's last comment may relate to the House of Commons committee report 'Safeguarding vulnerable claimants' as it can be seen that the DWP has much to be done to ensure this & many sensible recommendations should be followed, including transparency.
Sorry I can't appear to give a hyperlink to this, but put copy & paste the following into your browser. It's a very long read, but makes the DWP far more accountable: https://committees.parliament.uk/publications/47840/documents/250688/default/
I don't know that the coroner could have said anything more, & I'm therefore assured that MW123 hasn't mislead. Anyone 'misleading' is a big problem to myself thinking about this community, & why we should all deal in facts about terrible incidents such Jodey Whiting's suicide, this Green Paper, & so much more.
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Thank you, @chiarieds , for such a thoughtful and well-sourced post.
Your points about the inquest’s findings, and especially the reference to the House of Commons Work and Pensions Committee report, highlight how nuanced and important this discussion is. Facts genuinely matter, and you have demonstrated that clearly.
In my view, referencing the idea of “truth” was not about asserting a definitive or universal conclusion, but rather about reflecting what Joy Dove herself expressed, a small measure of justice in an otherwise devastating loss. Whether others agree or not, it seems fair to share her words, particularly in a space where lived experience, advocacy and emotional truth are key parts of how we connect and support one another.
I completely agree that dealing in facts only strengthens this community, especially when we are discussing the real-world consequences of policy decisions on vulnerable lives.
Thanks again for your clarity and thoughtful contribution to the thread.
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Here are the two forms that are confusing me:
This one which 50 pages long. Even if we skip the first 12 pages that explain how to fill in the form, etc, it's still 38 pages long.
And this one which is just 20 pages long.
I've also come across a 36 pages long one.
The review form, below, seems to be a bit longer the one right above.
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A PIP1 form is only sent out to PIP claimants that have difficulty in replying to questions if they're unable to ring up to begin their claim, or prefer to post their reply. The PIP2 form is the 'How does your disability affect you' form, which initial claimants then need to complete. The AR1 is a review form which isn't relevant to you @Passerby There's also an AR2 which is for 'light touch' reviews.
You should ring up to claim, then you'll receive the PIP2 form to complete. Ringing up to claim is faster, & any successful claim will be from the date of this phone call (so quicker than a postal completion of the PIP1).
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Genuinely it's beyond me how I fill out these forms !! I do some pages one-day and leave till last minute I don't answer in any order In sure I have some sort of learning disability I just don't hold any information or even understand
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Catherine, you're not alone, I fill the PIP form in with the same confidence as someone guessing at a pub quiz. I'm convinced these forms are designed to test our patience, not our eligibility.
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The forms are definitely quite confusing and can be difficult to try to understand what it is that they are actually asking of us.
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Morning all. I hope everyone is doing ok today.
Please may I remind everybody of the house rules. Sometimes it's not the context of the discussion, but how we address one another 💛
As I mentioned yesterday, it's understandably an incredibly important subject to discuss, so we're all bound to have strong and sometimes differing opinions, but we must discuss these differences in a respectful way.
I've added a link to the rules below for anybody who wants to look at the specifics.
Best wishes to all,
Holly
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the last time i filled a form in i took pictures of every page for future reference
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On the question about Badenoch's claim, for disabled people this would be bad as the ECHR protects our rights. It is bad for most people, honestly, because it protects everyone's rights - Those wanting rid of it generally want to do more cutting/create more inequality/ and change more things without having to be held accountable. This includes things like work related laws and so on, so yes, it's bad.
I am wondering if the reason the government are avoiding making any clear statements on PIP etc is that they are waiting for the consultation period to end. Otherwise by this point it feels politically self destructive to keep refusing to listen. Though it would be helpful if the MSM were more interested in this story.
I can't do a PIP claim over the phone - I have an advocate who did my review although the call came out of the blue. I hate the original form as well. I cannot answer "often/sometimes" questions because they are not specific or accurate enough and so I end up writing additional information on the questions to qualify what I mean.
And I always end up with an additional statement at the end tacked on because I'm never sure I've been able to answer properly.
These often/sometimes/the majority of days questions were ones I also fell down on in my assessment. I told the assessor I didn't understand/couldn't quantify the questions as per my life. She interpreted my inability to answer as my not having any issues with anything, unfortunately :/0 -
Who agrees that the government has it's priorities wrong ?
"An £86bn package for the science and technology sector will help fund research into drug treatments and longer-lasting batteries, the government has said ahead of Wednesday's Spending Review.”
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i wonder why that is ? 😄
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Haha! Match this map with places of economic activity (and not only).
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As I said before, political parties are just paint on the locomotive of real power. Whether you paint the locomotive white or black - it doesn't matter, it will only go where the rails are. Elections are a decision on what color it will be painted. And nothing more.
No one stole anyone's ideas - this is the idea of real power, not the clowns from the parties.2 -
Yh I thought it was it only takes 6 months to leave ECHR tbh we're doomed they doing this to take more rights people so blinded by stop the boats been walked into another nightmare it's true people need to educate themselves dystopia here we come
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